Laws that should be nationalized
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Same people who write the federal laws now.
I am of course well aware of our federated states system, but there are times where there really are certain laws that must be universal. Otherwise we risk degenerating into a polyglot of a million little communities that have nothing in common. And of course we must never allow criminals to flee prosecution in one state by escaping to another.
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aint happened in the last 200 years, aint gonna happen in the future either.
Same people who write the federal laws now.
I am of course well aware of our federated states system, but there are times where there really are certain laws that must be universal. Otherwise we risk degenerating into a polyglot of a million little communities that have nothing in common. And of course we must never allow criminals to flee prosecution in one state by escaping to another.
I agree that it has to be constitutional (which is why I mentioned the full faith and credit clause). However, there are ways around that. Suppose the Federal government wants to set a uniform conceal and carry requirement where you need to have a certain amount of training in the safe handling of a firearm before you get a license. What they can do is pass a law where federal dollars given towards local law enforcement are withheld unless a state passes a law that is uniform with the federal guideline. That would be constitutional under South Dakota v. Dole because it's part of Congress' power "to collect Taxes ... [to] provide for the common defence and general Welfare".
Generally speaking, congress is much more likely to intervene to restrict than to expand. So they wouldn't be intervening to extend drinking hours in all states.
Generally speaking, congress is much more likely to intervene to restrict than to expand. So they wouldn't be intervening to extend drinking hours in all states.
Yes they should, but it will never happened. The people in the small areas would give up power if that happened. How important would a city council member be if all of the important laws were the same across the countries. How could major corps buy cities and run them if the laws were the same and they could not get free money to run their business. I mean the list just goes on. Love that Constitution.
So there are no self service gas stations where you live in Oregon? That seems strange.
Nope, that's a state law. And boy do the attendants run to your car when you pull up. Apparently there's a pretty big fine involved if someone pumps their own gas. It's fine with me, it rains here a LOT and in the summer I'm a lazy SOB. It's much easier to just hand over the card or cash and not have to get out of the car. And we still have the lowest gas prices on the West Coast.
^ Do you have to tip the attendants?
Wow interesting. Any insight as to why this is law?
New Jersey is the same way. Cheapest gas in the mid-Atlantic and attendants have to pump it for you (and you don't tip them, btw). To me, the whole thing seems stupid (probably some law maker thought everybody would blow themselves up or something) so it weirds me out whenever I go to Jersey.
Then again, one of my Jersey friends just pumped his own gas for the first time this summer (he's 21 right now).
Then again, one of my Jersey friends just pumped his own gas for the first time this summer (he's 21 right now).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
The US is not a single-government entity. It is a collection of fifty federated states, who are in turn collections of county and municipal governments.
That's not entirely true. As established by the Preamble, the sovereignty of the United States rests with the people, whose powers - and portions of whose collective sovereignty - are delegated to two distinct and separate levels of government: the States and the United States. Constitutionally, we aren't a collection of states we aren't a collection of states which have surrendered some powers to a central government, as we were under the articles; we're a single people who have collectively granted separate aspects of our authority to two competing organs of government.
And here I thought New Jersey was the only state where pumping your own gas wasn't allowed!
Apparently, those are the only two states. The explanation is that, decades ago, it was deemed "too dangerous" for non-professionals to pump their own gas. And somehow, the law has become entrenched and nobody wants to change it. Weird.
Ah well, it's nice not having to get out of my car to pump.
I didn't realize that in Jersey they had to pump it for you. I fill up in Jersey every weekend because yeah it is 20-30 cents cheaper than NY and it's not out of my way at all. But there are some self serve pumps for diesel....does the law not apply to that?
I like full service stations too, but why should it be a law? I should be able to pump my own gas if I want to. We have no such law here, and we still have full serve stations.
It's just an antiquated law based on fear that people would blow themselves up, and they've just never been repealed.
I'm at the point where I think a state should at least attempt to match the amount they receive from the federal government. Living in a state where we pay into the fed far more than we take out is infuriating, particularly when those very states we GIVE money to love to bash California.
Really? Ever been to West Baltimore? Well armed. Not polite.
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