Oh, well, that's alright then, let's get it done.Um...look again. Guy said it was only 72 Minutes longIsn't that the ep. that Peter Jackson is directing?
LOL, well the EE version is another 100 minutes longer.
Last Christmas Grading and Discussion Thread
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You know, I've made a few complaints about Moffat scripts being too talky, and I think I even made that complaint specifically in my review of Name of the Doctor. Indeed, many times it seems like the characters drone on and on about what needs to be done before finally doing it.
But holy shit, I never realized how accurate that complaint was before watching that clip just now. Clara spends nearly two minutes talking about going inside the Doctor's timestream before finally doing it.
Although it wasn't really a season premiere, The Next Doctor did reveal the title of Planet of the Dead in its end credits.
There's so much bile and bitterness around here, and so little joy and sense of fun. It's really disheartening. It didn't use to be like that.
I enjoyed the episode quite a lot.
I enjoyed the episode quite a lot.
And Moffat didn't use to be the showrunner. Things change.
There's just as much hate for the show and showrunner now as there was during the RTD days.
As the poll shows, the people who didn't like the episode are more vocal. Nothing new here.
There's just as much hate for the show and showrunner now as there was during the RTD days.
As the poll shows, the people who didn't like the episode are more vocal. Nothing new here.
I've been here for quite some time and yes, things are very different nowadays. A couple of years ago, we didn't "hate" or "despise" as many things, episodes, actors or characters as we do now. A couple of years ago, people didn't spend so much time watching and commenting a show they hated, they just moved on. Which is fine I guess. Things indeed change. As far as I'm concerned though, I find more to enjoy in the show, flawed as it may be, than I find in this forum, which is, often enough, filled with joyless and bitter banter.
Seen the episode 3 times now, and my enjoyment of it has grown. I wouldn't call it one of the best episodes they've ever done in the new series, but it's definitely a mix of classic elements and good Christmas cheer. So I voted "very good."
Also the first time Danny Pink didn't completely annoy me.
Also the first time Danny Pink didn't completely annoy me.
I just had one of those long, deep sighs thinking about how I want to cuddle up on the couch, and watch reruns with the Widow from a couple a Christmas episodes past... But then I couldn't take my eyes off her in Chef 20 years ago.
Remember the good old days when RTD was finally gone and Moffat was going to save Doctor Who excessive emotionality and meaningless plots?
I remember when I heard Moffat was going to take over the show and I was overjoyed and couldn't wait to see what he had in store for us. And he hasn't disappointed me yet.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. One of Moffat's better efforts, definitely; for me, since "The Girl in the Fireplace." I've been pondering why that is, and I think it's because it's self-contained.
As for Danny... I didn't really have any problems with Samuel Anderson's performance in series 8. I thought he worked well here, even though he wasn't really Danny. Rather, he was like Mal was to Cobb in Inception, a projection from Clara's subconscious, and he was speaking the things that Clara thought but couldn't give voice to or refused to look at.
Not necessarily, though I noticed that, at the end of the episode, the Doctor and Clara still don't have wounds on their temples where the Dream Crab would be feeding.
I was waiting for a mention about the Afghan kid that Danny handed over to Clara. She didn't mention him once. I have read reviews and articles about this episode, and not one person has mentioned this. The death of this kid had a major influence on Danny, and he sacrificed his chance of returning to life by giving that chance to a kid he killed. Instead, I am reading about the big house that Clara is living in. I am like, who cares? Tell me about the child.
You are preaching to someone who hasn't really liked DS9 since Worf joined the cast.
And no, I didn't care for the cheat that was Sisko inserted into "Mirror, Mirror" and pretending it was the Tribbles episode. I guess they counted on most viewers not noticing.
^More likely, they expected most viewers not to care.
It's a long story...
I thought at the end of "Death in Heaven," Danny tells Clara to send the boy back to Afghanistan. (It's possible he didn't; I don't think I was ever what Danny was saying at that moment.) So, months later, the Afghan boy isn't an issue any longer.
Who said all the clips had to be from TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES? DS9 Production people never said that. They never said all the scenes we used in this episode are from TwT. I don't see a problem with it since they wanted to add the Sisko/Kirk scene.
Funny Worf is the only reason why I kept watching DS9.
Honestly I wouldn't care if they totally forgot about the boy from the finale. That is the only part I didn't like about the finale. It seems like you are causing more heartache for the boy and his family. How does the family explain oh guess what Our son who has been dead for years is back from the dead.
I think it was supposed to be a awwww moment for us and a sad moment to. I don't think we are meant to remember or think about it.
Honestly I wouldn't care if they totally forgot about the boy from the finale. That is the only part I didn't like about the finale. It seems like you are causing more heartache for the boy and his family. How does the family explain oh guess what Our son who has been dead for years is back from the dead.
I think it was supposed to be a awwww moment for us and a sad moment to. I don't think we are meant to remember or think about it.
I think he said something like, "Find this boy's parents."
And then it's three weeks later when Clara and the Doctor meet up in the diner, so I assumed the boy had been taken care of.
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