Oh I see.
I guess I forgot about that. Was that mentioned in TGTMD or on a particular episode?
I guess I forgot about that. Was that mentioned in TGTMD or on a particular episode?
Kobayashi Maru
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Malcolm's connection to Section 31 was revealed in Affliction/Divergence, and again in Demons/Terra Prime. He'd been a member since his days as an ensign.
Trip went to work for them in TGTMD.
Note that in ENT's time frame, Section 31 is not evil like it is in DS9 etc. At this early point, their motives really are good.
I don't think they were evil per se but wasn't it Luther Sloan who made it that way? Wasn't that why Bashir and O'Brien went inside his mind or something like that?
Not to sell Andy or Mike short, both of whom I love, but I believe that honor belongs to KRAD who, in Enemy Territory, presented the relationship between Bekk Moq and (the late) Bekk Yojagh.
David Mack followed up later that year with Harbinger, the first Vanguard novel, which introduced Anna Sandesjo aka Lurqal, although that was an inter-species relationship.
Gotta love those guys!
^ All in keeping with the "Big Gay Agenda" memo distributed to all Trek writers.
Next up? Amnesty for illegal aliens.
Next up? Amnesty for illegal aliens.
Mestral will be so relieved.
He might have; we don't know how long he had control of Section 31. I think, though, that their very existence corrupted them. It couldn't be blamed on one person, not even Sloan.
Well, they actually did it because he wouldn't give up the cure for the Founders' wasting disease (that Section 31 caused in the first place).
There was never any indication, AFAIK, that Sloan ever "had control" of S31. He always struck me as being a foot soldier for the Company.
And while I hesitate to call the organization itself evil (or, really, any of the people involved in it, who surely see themselves as noble and selfless defenders of the Federation), we know from the fiction that S31 had been acting in less than admirable ways at least since Kirk's day, and continued to do so following Sloan's death.
Absolutely. An organization that answers to no one, that has nobody to keep it in check? There's no way it wouldn't become corrupt and criminally self-serving over the course of 200 years. Sloan was just one cog in a machine whose primary goal for generations had been to sustain itself at any cost.
Considering it was first announced as a trilogy of MMPBs - and some MMPBs have been huge in recent years - the trade PB could be the size of a doorstop. Or not. Maybe we are getting three novels (in one binding) all at once, and it'll look like the "DS9: Millennium" omnibus?.
It is impossible to cast judgment upon the project from what's been revealed so far. If Margaret was deliberately evasive about the TP at Shore Leave, then she may be choosing not to announce "Book 1 of X Volumes" just yet.
"A Time..." was originally announced as a twelve-parter. "Starfleet Year One" was told in one slim omnibus of 12 chapter-sized parts. The first two "Rihannsu" novels were standalones, and ended up being a five-parter in all.
KM has just arrived Down Under! (Air freighted to Galaxy in the CBD.)
Well, looks like another mystery solved:
And I gotta say, Kojiro Vance (the Kobayashi Maru's captain) looks hilarious. A real pirate?
(I am, then, guessing that the words we hear in the simulator room in ST II are actual archival recordings of Vance himself?)
Cheron from 'Let That Be Your Last Battlefield' is the same one as in the 'Battle of Cheron' et al. The Romulans basically moved in, occupied Cheron's shattered cities and took over the planet because of its strategic location. Which is probably the reason why the upcoming 'Battle of Cheron' will be so important...
And I gotta say, Kojiro Vance (the Kobayashi Maru's captain) looks hilarious. A real pirate?
(I am, then, guessing that the words we hear in the simulator room in ST II are actual archival recordings of Vance himself?)
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Or a four-parter, since The Bloodwing Voyages recombines Swordhunt and Honor Blade back into the single novel, Swordhunt, that they were originally written as.
If we can't cast judgment, can we at least cast aspersions?
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Though much is inadvisable.
I can't remember, is it absolutely confirmed of that? Does Section 31 - in DS9's timeframe, anyway - truly and literally answer to *no one*? Not even the President of the Federation?
Well, we know canonically that S31 had a mole inside Jaresh-Inyo's cabinet, which isn't the kind of thing you'd think a organization which answers to the president would do.
Outside the DS9 (TV) timeframe, it was pretty clear, given the events of A Time to Heal, that 31 doesn't pay the prez a whole lot of respect...
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