Kobayashi Maru

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Man of Steel, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. Nerys Myk

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  2. Idoliside

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    Didn't amazon once used to sell books exclusivly?
     
  3. Man of Steel

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    I'm open to negotiating. :).
     
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    I'm going by Barnes and Noble tonight actually, just to see if they have it on the shelf. When Greater Than The Sum came out, I had to find it cuz it was hidden behind the Terok Nor series for some reason. I was almost upset about it but was happy to have that book in my hand.
     
  6. Man of Steel

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    I can tell you that the flagship store on 5th ave did not have it so it's unlikely that the others will. In fact, Great Than The Sum was still in the new paperbacks section. I think your best bet would be to order it directly from Barnes and Noble's website where it is shipping already.
     
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    You know, we use that one so often, somebody with better photoshop skills than I ought to make it into a meme image for ease of reference.

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    theft, diversion of product. etc etc etc
     
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  10. Trent Roman

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    That's a great shot. Saved. :)

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    :guffaw:I saved it too, I hope you don't mind.
     
  12. Mr. Laser Beam

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    What episode was that photo taken from?
     
  13. Dayton Ward

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  15. Sxottlan

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    A pretty blistering review of Kobayashi Maru is up over at TrekMovie.

    Ouch.
     
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  16. Therin of Andor

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    Amazing how many people there are saying they've been swayed into not buying the book due to one negative review. ???
     
  17. Andy Mangels

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    I'm not as bothered by his negative opinions of some elements as I am that he criticizes us for something that he got completely wrong. The "Malcolm off the bridge" scenario is MUCH more complicated and has many more reasons, qualifications, and ramifications than the reviewer seemed to grasp.

    Ah well.
     
  18. Steve Roby

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    I sometimes suspect the people who post "Well, I guess I won't buy THAT one now" in response to negative reviews were never going to buy the book in question. They just enjoy a good pile-on.
     
  19. FatherRob

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    I don't think I failed to grasp it... the reader knows what's going on and the real reason that he isn't there (which I didn't want to spoil in the review), but Archer doesn't...

    ...and in spite of Reed's recent past, I can't see Archer, or any other believable starship commander going into a known battle situation with galactic implications without his tactical officer on the job.

    Perhaps there was an undercurrent that I totally missed, though I reread the exchange twice because I was actually shocked that he didn't march right down to Reed's quarters and drag him to the bridge.

    Of course...
    ...if Archer had bothered to go to find Reed, only to find that he wasn't in his quarters, he might bother to find out that there was a shuttle missing, and that Reed was on it. Laying aside my own belief that Archer should darned well have known about the missing shuttle the second he walked onto the bridge and got a shift change report, I couldn't believe the passage of time from Reed and T'Pol's 'appropriation' of the shuttle to the time its absence was discovered.

    I love SciFi, and I can suspend my disbelief with the best of them... but these were just too much for me.

    As I have noted in the comments at TrekMovie, though, it is my opinion... KM was disappointing and didn't do it for me. It felt totally out of the loop when compared with the excellent "The Good That Men Do" which, arguably, the best Enterprise novel that there is... (it's certainly the best I have read.) Archer, in my opinion, significantly regresses in KM, and that's a pity.

    Rob+
     
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  20. Rush Limborg

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    :wtf:Wait... let...me...get...this...straight.... You're remarks about the bathroom thing being corny was doubtless one of the most scathing, seering parts of the review.

    You mean... to tell us... that you wrote that part... because you didn't want to SPOIL anything?!?!?!?:scream: