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Klingons

Although a certain recent fantasy film trilogy which grossed approximately $3 billion did feature subtitles extensively...
 
And I'm sure some people thought that trilogy invoked subtitles too often while others got annoyed each time they lapsed.
 
I love subtitles. I've never thought/felt that they were out of place. But I do think it might have interfered with the action element of some of the Rom scenes.

Although a certain recent fantasy film trilogy which grossed approximately $3 billion did feature subtitles extensively...

Trying to think what this is..

SW Prequels? Subtitles for Watto and possibly the Neimodians?
LOTR? Elvish subtitles iirc.

HP had too many movies to be a trilogy. Twilight, I thought there were only two films? The Matrix, no subtitles. X-Men, no subtitles.

TELL ME!!
 
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I want some well read, debonair Klingons like in ST:VI. Otherwise, I'm over them.

You mean guys who prattle on and on about the good bard, but can never conceive a real thought of their own?

Yeah, sure. Okay.

Let's look into the thoughts of the average Klingon shall we?
:klingon:Me kill Kirk! Me Kill Kirk! Me want GLORY! Kirk dead? :confused: Then me want HONOR!! And GLORY!

TUC had the guile to suggest Klingons were actually literate.
 
I want some well read, debonair Klingons like in ST:VI. Otherwise, I'm over them.

You mean guys who prattle on and on about the good bard, but can never conceive a real thought of their own?

Yeah, sure. Okay.

Let's look into the thoughts of the average Klingon shall we?
:klingon:Me kill Kirk! Me Kill Kirk! Me want GLORY! Kirk dead? :confused: Then me want HONOR!! And GLORY!

TUC had the guile to suggest Klingons were actually literate.

We also had Kor, Kang and Koloth in TOS who were altogether less grunty then what we got later on. Kor in particular came across as man of the mind. The TUC Klingons took it a step farther and showed them to have an arrogance of brain as well as brawn. Chang was delightful in his barbs and condescension, hackneyed as they may seem to newer viewers.

DS9 did give us Martok who was multi-faceted but the amount of yelling, killing, blood wine throwing that took place on Klingon ships is pretty grotesque. You do get the impression that most Klingons are barbarians with the smarter ones rising to the top and controlling the masses.

We know the literate intelligent Klingons exist and perhaps wrestle with honour as a philosophy, not just an excuse for smashing stuff. These will be much better characters for XII.
 
You mean guys who prattle on and on about the good bard, but can never conceive a real thought of their own?

Yeah, sure. Okay.

Let's look into the thoughts of the average Klingon shall we?
:klingon:Me kill Kirk! Me Kill Kirk! Me want GLORY! Kirk dead? :confused: Then me want HONOR!! And GLORY!

TUC had the guile to suggest Klingons were actually literate.

We also had Kor, Kang and Koloth in TOS who were altogether less grunty then what we got later on. Kor in particular came across as man of the mind. The TUC Klingons took it a step farther and showed them to have an arrogance of brain as well as brawn. Chang was delightful in his barbs and condescension, hackneyed as they may seem to newer viewers.

DS9 did give us Martok who was multi-faceted but the amount of yelling, killing, blood wine throwing that took place on Klingon ships is pretty grotesque. You do get the impression that most Klingons are barbarians with the smarter ones rising to the top and controlling the masses.

We know the literate intelligent Klingons exist and perhaps wrestle with honour as a philosophy, not just an excuse for smashing stuff. These will be much better characters for XII.

It's due to the collapse of the Klingon educational system after the Praxis event. I'm only half-joking there.
 
It's due to the collapse of the Klingon educational system after the Praxis event. I'm only half-joking there.

That actually sounds kinda plausible. Religious extremism (as we know) has only been around in the Middle East since the early 20th century. And christian fundamentalism (as we know it) can be traced back to the Great Depression. These are fairly recent developments then on the world stage.

It would be pretty cool to have a market scene set on Qo'noS where a street preacher pontificates about the mighty Kahless and how his teachings have been forgotten among modern Klingons. Meanwhile the TOS Klingons (Koloth, Kang, etc) just laugh at religious fervor as a you Gorkon shows concern.
 
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