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Kirk was a Jerk

cardinal biggles said:
^Except that during the fight you have this exchange:

(from memory; I'll fix it when I get home from work and can check the DVD)

Kirk: Where's Dr. Marcus?
David: I'm Dr. Marcus.
Carol: Jim!
Kirk: Carol? Is that David?

So what exactly Kirk knew and when he discovered it is a bit muddy.

All that shows is that Kirk was aware that she had a son named David.
 
But the way he says it says he says more...no matter though as whats on screen still points to her not wanting Kirk in Davids life and not Kirk running away...if that had happened Carol would have been far more hostile towards him.
 
It seems we all have different Kirks.

My Kirk constantly agonizes about doing the right thing. He sacrifices his personal wishes for the good of others and feels the tremendous weight of paths he did not choose.

Movie Kirk may not reflect that. TOS Kirk certainly does.
 
Gotta agree with that last post. Movie Kirk never feels like TOS Kirk to me; there were so many moments when I read the TMP novelization (pre-release) where I thought I knew absolutely how Shatner would play it, but I was disappointed when I saw the direction he did take, which was far from my expectation.

Movie Kirk has his moments (usually when he is mild), but my fave Kirk moment is definitely early TOS, when he tells Charlie Evans, "go to your quarters or I'll pick you up and carry you there." It is low and deadly and absolute. A few years later, I'm sure Shatner would have been sing-songing it, but he had it right early on. Movie Kirk feels a bit like a burnout at times, which, I guess given what he has gone through and sacrificed, might make a certain amount of sense, but I just don't like him much and I don't admire the movie character at all.
 
That's interesting; my wife can't stand the TV Kirk, but the movie-era Kirk is one of her favorite characters.
 
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