Spoilers Killjoys - Season 4
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Kendry - "we're not a family" then she works it out "they're brothers, one's the genetic father of the baby. My girlfriend is the sister-mother of their friend, shit we are a family"
The premise here didn't work for me. If the severed elevator was just drifting powerless through space, how the hell did it drift out of the Quad and reach an entirely different star system -- one that seems to be far outside the plane of the J galaxy, judging from the view of the sky toward the end? It should've taken something like a few hundred million years to make such a journey at their speed. Heck, they shouldn't even have had the velocity to break their orbit around the Quad's sun.
I wonder if Dutch's reduced role here was needed to accommodate Hannah John-Kamen's shooting schedule for Ant-Man and the Wasp.
It's kinda weird how many actors this show has in common with The Expanse. The last time I saw Zeph and Pip together, they were both Martian soldiers, and the last time I saw Fancy, he was a UN officer commanding the Thomas Prince. (And meanwhile, the last time I saw Turin, he was Cole's father on 12 Monkeys.)
Before that last line, she also mentioned the ongoing rivalry and backstabbing and murder attempts among them, which I think is what really led to her epiphany, because such things are common among the elite ruling families she comes from.
I wonder if Dutch's reduced role here was needed to accommodate Hannah John-Kamen's shooting schedule for Ant-Man and the Wasp.
It's kinda weird how many actors this show has in common with The Expanse. The last time I saw Zeph and Pip together, they were both Martian soldiers, and the last time I saw Fancy, he was a UN officer commanding the Thomas Prince. (And meanwhile, the last time I saw Turin, he was Cole's father on 12 Monkeys.)
Before that last line, she also mentioned the ongoing rivalry and backstabbing and murder attempts among them, which I think is what really led to her epiphany, because such things are common among the elite ruling families she comes from.
They said at the beginning that the moons were different so they weren't in the Quad anymore. I took that to mean not in the star system, but the Quad is just the name of the planetary system formed by Qresh and its three moons, so it's possible they could be on another planet around the same star. However, the series to date has portrayed the Quad as the only habitation in that star system. Also, the sky in that shot near the end looked like the view of a golden spiral galaxy from directly "above" its disk at some distance. We saw in the opening shot of the series premiere that the J Star Cluster is a fat, golden spiral galaxy with the Quad on its far fringes. If they're now looking "down" on it from above (or up from below -- same thing in space), then they've traveled tens of thousands of light-years at least.
Don't remember if this was ever explicitly established, but I always assumed the J Star Cluster is a globular cluster, not the entire galaxy, so the view "down" on the galaxy doesn't necessarily mean they moved any significant distance within the cluster.
Anyway I've only just caught up with episode 2, so this might have already been answered in the next one...
'twas a good episode, love the interactions between Dell Seyah and the boys, Crazy Hullen Johnny was appropriately scary, and the bits with Zeph and poor spider-Pip and Pree were fun as well, see you all tomorrow for episode 3.
That's not what the establishing shot of the pilot indicated. It showed the Quad as being on the outer rim of the golden spiral galaxy, with no separate globular clusters depicted. And the spiral was captioned as the J Star Cluster. It's an inaccurate use of the terminology, but it's the way they use it in the show.
I just checked the shot and it's ambiguous at best, the camera spirals around a tight pack of stars, but there are no clear spiral arms there, it starts from within so we don't have look against "empty" space, and the angle of the shot doesn't preclude a big galaxy somewhere under it (or just before the shot starts), so I wouldn't dismiss it entirely based on that shot alone.
Well, if you expect SFTV shows to use astronomical terminology in anything remotely close to a scientifically accurate way, you'll be disappointed at least 9 times out of 10. Heck, there are TV writers out there who don't even know the difference between a galaxy and a star system, so I doubt very many of them have the slightest idea what a globular cluster is. So I wouldn't read too much into the terminology.
Besides, why would it even matter here? The stars in a globular cluster are more tightly packed than they are in the Milky Way, sure, but it would still probably take at least tens of thousands of years for an unpowered space elevator car to drift from one to another. So it's a difference that makes no difference in this context.
Besides, why would it even matter here? The stars in a globular cluster are more tightly packed than they are in the Milky Way, sure, but it would still probably take at least tens of thousands of years for an unpowered space elevator car to drift from one to another. So it's a difference that makes no difference in this context.
It's not just TV writers either, unfortunately. I once came across a book by a science fiction artist compiling a bunch of his paintings and sketches with a character's first-person journal loosely tying them together into a storyline. One of the journal entries, set during a trip to Earth (to Earth, mind you) contained a passage to the effect of, "We're now two light-years away from Earth. Just a few more galaxies to go." 
All caught up now.
So... next week a birth and hopefully an exorcism because as (psychotically) fun as crazy Johnny is I do miss regular Johnny. Would be nice if Dutch also woke up and got busy shooting some baddies if she's not too busy shooting big Hollywood movies...
So... next week a birth and hopefully an exorcism because as (psychotically) fun as crazy Johnny is I do miss regular Johnny. Would be nice if Dutch also woke up and got busy shooting some baddies if she's not too busy shooting big Hollywood movies...
Or maybe this is just the kind of sci-fi universe that doesn't follow any sort of realistic science when it comes to interstellar travel. We've seen ships in the show make interstellar journeys fairly easily without anything being established about any kind of hyperdrive. The second-season finale even had Dutch and Khlyen somehow teleported to another star system and back in an instant as part of the Archive's security system, which never got a clear explanation. Some shows are just really bad with the idea of interstellar distances, and it's increasingly looking like this show is one of them.
I got the feeling that originally there was supposed to be no FTL in this universe, the first two seasons were confined to the Quad, and interstellar travel was something that seemed very rare. I think that's where the "cluster" came in as a description for the setting, if the stars there were packed densely enough they could get away with interstellar travel at sub-light speeds if they wanted.
I wouldn't assume they even thought it through that far. There have been a lot of SF shows and films over the decades whose creators weren't even aware of the concept of the speed of light and how it limited interstellar travel. Maybe such things are less common these days than they were in the time of the original Lost in Space, Battlestar Galactica, or Space: 1999, but they could still exist.
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