Kes and Neelix

[Lynx]

They make an adorable couple! (I would LIKE to think that, if not for that damn warlord thing, Kes and Neelix never would have broken up.)

Sure, Neelix is a tad jealous at times, but never dangerously so. Let's put it this way: I suspect that Kes was his first love, and thus he was unprepared for a relationship and kind of overcompensated at times. Before Kes, he wasn't used to being a boyfriend and didn't know "how" to be one. Fair enough, yes?

Really Neelix was never "dangerously jealous"? What about his behavior in this episode?

http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/voy-parturition-review-6350892

When Neelix is assaulting other crew members at the slightest hint they may be interested in Kes, Neelix has become dangerously jealous.

The review was actually funny ad had some points.

However, it totally missed one of the hilarious scenes in the episode. The interaction between Kes and The Doctor in sickbay shortly after the very hiarious fight between Neelix and Tom:

THE DOCTOR: Are you all right?
KES: I'm fine.
THE DOCTOR: Are you sure? You seem a little
KES: I'm fine.
THE DOCTOR: You know, if you skip lunch, the result might be a lower blood sugar level, which could. I'm sorry. It's in my programme. I see something wrong, I must attempt to diagnose it.
KES: There are some things you can't cure. Neelix and Tom Paris had a physical fight-over me!
THE DOCTOR: How delightful!
KES: Delightful?
THE DOCTOR: You should consider it a high compliment. Throughout history, men have fought over the love of a woman. Why, I can quote you autopsy reports from duels as far back as 1538.
KES: That's not funny.
THE DOCTOR: It's not meant to be. You've always been interested in autopsies.

KES: On my homeworld it's so much simpler. You choose a mate for life. There's no distrust, no jealousy, no envy, no betrayal.
THE DOCTOR: Hmm. Your world must have very dry literature.

"Parturition" is sometimes criticized for being a dull episode. I actually like it, mostly for some of the hilarious moments in it.

As for Neelix jealousy, I do think that Kes definitely started to lose interest in him around the time for this episode.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

They make an adorable couple! (I would LIKE to think that, if not for that damn warlord thing, Kes and Neelix never would have broken up.)

Sure, Neelix is a tad jealous at times, but never dangerously so. Let's put it this way: I suspect that Kes was his first love, and thus he was unprepared for a relationship and kind of overcompensated at times. Before Kes, he wasn't used to being a boyfriend and didn't know "how" to be one. Fair enough, yes?

Really Neelix was never "dangerously jealous"? What about his behavior in this episode?

http://blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-reviews/voy-parturition-review-6350892

When Neelix is assaulting other crew members at the slightest hint they may be interested in Kes, Neelix has become dangerously jealous.

The review was actually funny ad had some points.

However, it totally missed one of the hilarious scenes in the episode. The interaction between Kes and The Doctor in sickbay shortly after the very hiarious fight between Neelix and Tom:

THE DOCTOR: Are you all right?
KES: I'm fine.
THE DOCTOR: Are you sure? You seem a little
KES: I'm fine.
THE DOCTOR: You know, if you skip lunch, the result might be a lower blood sugar level, which could. I'm sorry. It's in my programme. I see something wrong, I must attempt to diagnose it.
KES: There are some things you can't cure. Neelix and Tom Paris had a physical fight-over me!
THE DOCTOR: How delightful!
KES: Delightful?
THE DOCTOR: You should consider it a high compliment. Throughout history, men have fought over the love of a woman. Why, I can quote you autopsy reports from duels as far back as 1538.
KES: That's not funny.
THE DOCTOR: It's not meant to be. You've always been interested in autopsies.

KES: On my homeworld it's so much simpler. You choose a mate for life. There's no distrust, no jealousy, no envy, no betrayal.
THE DOCTOR: Hmm. Your world must have very dry literature.

"Parturition" is sometimes criticized for being a dull episode. I actually like it, mostly for some of the hilarious moments in it.

As for Neelix jealousy, I do think that Kes definitely started to lose interest in him around the time for this episode.

I agree. The warlord actually did Kes a service by breaking up with Neelix on her behalf. If you look carefully, there's no more display of intimacy between the two of them after that. She even acknowledges indirectly the break up when she talks to Tuvok at the end of the episode. Kes finally saw Neelix the same way as much every one else, as someone really annoying.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Not to mention that the character did have more substance than just being annoying, a goofball or a clown. Just watch "Jetrel"! A fantastic episode which shows that the character had a lot of depth. In fact, his flaws could easily be regarded as a result of the trumatic events in his life.

They explored the other sides to him in maybe three episodes and Jetrel is the only case where it really worked and didn't feel throwaway. Yeah, Jetrel gives him depth, but that depth doesn't exactly stick.

They could have successfully given him that boisterous exterior if they showed the other sides to him more often in ways that came off as more central to his character.

There's a certain episode I'm also thinking of in a later season that showed a darker aspect of his character but was also kind of uncomfortable and again was completely forgotten by the next episode.

 

[Melakon]

Early on, Phillips knew he'd be lucky if he could get one meaty episode like "Jetrel" each season, but it didn't always happen.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Early on, Phillips knew he'd be lucky if he could get one meaty episode like "Jetrel" each season, but it didn't always happen.

Well, he had Fair trade in season 3, Mortal Coil in Season 4, maybe the Haunting of Deck Twelve in season 6 in which he played a prominent part, and Homestead in season 7 in which he was the center of attention.

 

[2takesfrakes]

There were a lot of things they simply had no ideas about. They just continued to let everything roll and if it didn't work, they just dropped it or shoved it away without any explanations ...

Yes! Like B'Elanna, for instance, as teacake pointed out. She was just the resident Klingon, basically, until Tom gave her other things to be concerned with. And even then, the two of them had no chemestry to speak of. I don't know what it was ... even some actor couples who are married or going out in real life just fizzle onscreen.

Even when they saw it happening they just kept forcing it ... then she had to get pregnant ... and all the while it's like, "I'm not sure I really buy their relationship." So, it's almost as if they didn't really have a clue, either way. Keep working a bad idea or just let shit go and pretend like it never happened. Making Q have a wife and kid was The Limit, for me, though ... they just HAD to go there! Q as an energy being is so unrelatable, but Q the energy being/Family Man somehow is? I suspect it just has to do with being burnt out, creatively.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Q is a big mess right from the beginning, an omnipotent energy being who wants to hang with humans and provoke them.

Then again, the same could be said about God, what with all the flooding and plagueing.

But anyway.. Q is a real mess but he's a Star Trek mess. Organians, Trelane, Zetar, poor old Zephram. It seems everyone wants a pet and humans are the pets of the non-corporeal. The more omnipotent the non-corporeal one gets the more ridiculous it is, but you can blame Roddenberry and his determination to tell stories about what it means to be human by pairing humans with that which is other.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Q is fine if you assume every thing he does is reverse psychology.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Q is fine if you assume every thing he does is reverse psychology.

You mean like when he kills people. He just wanted to make a point...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

A little Q goes a long way with me. Thank god for de Lancie.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Q: I am going to kill you but don't worry it's just reverse psychology, not for you because you'll be dead but for the ones who'll live...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Q: If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid.

I was wondering, was it here? I was wondering if Q was able to play fast and loose with the little peoples lives, like Tasha's life, becuase he was singling out those with the shortest amount of life in them to jostle without care?

Oh.

The first time I saw that pig soldier stick Weasly with his bayonette, I did a little jig.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

That's mean.

 

[Guy Gardener]

OKay, maybe not the first time, but even so, I am not as mean as some.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

 

[Guy Gardener]

Drinking game: Every time Janeway Dies, have a shot.

Instructions: Put Coda in your DVD player and push play.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I don't like watching Chak touch her chest like that.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How would you prefer that he did touch her chest?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

With deference, utter utter deference.

And if it could be a dream sequence he experienced that when he tells her about it she airlocks him immediately that would also be good.

 

[Guy Gardener]

He probably played them like bongos while those tomatoes were growing in Resolutions.