Oh well...a human can dream.This is more fiction than transporters and warp drive.
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The Bell riots are only six years away.
Don't know where we would be without that.
Extremely sad to hear: We can't have a show with social development where things improve. Nonsense really.This is more fiction than transporters and warp drive.
There's certainly a lot of ugliness within humanity but there's been a lot of social development and a lot of it is tied directly to technological development. Even with blips, there is plenty of evidence we are currently living in the best time ever for humanity as a whole (which I have supplied evidence for many times), though surely with a lot of room for improvement. To say as a default that there will not be any is exactly contrary to current facts. So sure, there is plenty of room for optimism and Gene's vision.
Will we ever be perfect? Define perfection...but probably not.
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No where did I say we can't have a show like that, but it is fiction. You strip away the creature comforts and we are just as barbaric as any of our ancestors.
Doomed? No. I think we'll exist in one form or another for a long time, but I think we have times ahead that will make the world wars look like a Sunday picnic and our numbers will rapidly decline.
If there is a Star Trek like universe in our future, I betting more that it is the thirty-third century vs. the twenty-third.
Isn't that part of Trek's history though?
Yep; some estimates of the toll on the population of climate change over the next five hundred years or so suggest 90% losses.
Major wars usually lead to major population booms.
Well, war will certainly come, along with famine, disease etc. But climate change is destroying the world that we built our civilization in. That will kill people on a scale that all the wars in human history cannot match.
In the real world there is no "Star Trek" future. We've already precluded it.
Make it the timeline where the Federation is destroyed by the Borg and Riker has a terrible beard lol
Or the one where Worf and Troi make babies
I know, I know
1. World war three due to radiation poisoning turned the the remnants of humanity into a bunch of ignoramuses that they entered a modern Dark Ages where all the technical know how of the past was forgotten. So by the time The Vulcans came along Earth was more like the early 1920's era, so it took another 100 years to invent automatic doors and speaking elevators (Even tho I use one every day in my office building in 2017) LOL
2. Star Trek has never been about our real world Earth's future but another Earth far far away....(Hence we never had a real life Eugenics war in the 1970's)
GR's vision was to make money and entertain folks.... and he did.
As Shatner so eloquently put it, us fans need to 'Get a life!'
Climate change? We are going to have a rough period that Trek didn't predict. One that is going to kill a lot of people. Not the 37 million mentioned in "Bread and Circuses" nor the 600 million mentioned in First Contact. We are talking in the billions. I can easily see a good portion of the human race wiped away from what we are about to go through.
They will be saying that until a real 'First Contact' ever takes place
Those numbers when the population was only about 4 billion seems a lot , I think they need to revise them in the Star Trek franchise. If things are based on our present day, then it will take the loss of billions plus First Contact for humans to wake up and smell the coffee.
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