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Spoilers Justice League - Grading and Discussion

Grade the Movie

  • A+

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • A

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • A-

    Votes: 9 8.1%
  • B+

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • B

    Votes: 15 13.5%
  • B-

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • C+

    Votes: 11 9.9%
  • C

    Votes: 6 5.4%
  • C-

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • D+

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • D

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • D-

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • F

    Votes: 7 6.3%

  • Total voters
    111
True. The greatest comic book movies -- Donner's Superman, Jenkins's Wonder Woman -- elevate the genre by fully embracing its pop-mythic essence with intelligence, humor, and heart.

I agree that Donner's Superman and WW share some root DNA. Reeves and Gadot both walked that tightrope between naievete and optimisim so well. She really knocked it out of the park.
The third act of WW stopped it from being a classic for me. It fell into the DCEU trap of ugly lightning bolt explosions (the heartbreaking hearing loss goodbye from Steve being the exception).

I think that Tim Burton's first Batman deserves inclusion though as an absolute perfect example of blending the absurdist aspects of classic comic extravagence with brutal realism. Michael Keaton is the best Batman in my opinion because he was so unfit for the role to begin with. He seemed legit crazy. And Bale, Affleck couldn't seem to access that same place of brokeness mixed with charm that he could.
 
You want some more cheese with your whine?

You're the only one in here crying--as you do every, single time any board member expresses their opinion on the tattered MCU.

Nah, it'd be successful regardless. If you want something paper thin, it's how Dark Knight falls apart if it wasn't for Ledger dying making it immune to criticism.

Aww. biitter because TDK was a solid masterpiece throughout, which respected its source, instead of being influenced by Transformers movies, such as most of the MCU.

The days where CBMs had to be "grounded" to be seen as worthwhile are over, and good riddance. Now the MCU elevated the genre to the point that all their wondrous stuff can be openly appreciated.

Obviously incorrect, and I see you're fond of the continued misuse of the word "wondrous". You can mail Marvel's self-aggrandizing, ever-false PR campaign back to the narration for Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends.

Wondrous as in, non-sensical, make shit up on the spot because anything goes types of movies?

No thanks, I'll take grounded.

Well said. This is the reason the majority of the MCU are not the kind of films to revisit, as they cannot stand up to even a moment of rational thought.
 
And yet the Dark Knight is better than anything the MCU has ever crapped out

Without question.




Where do you come up with this stuff?

He thinking its clever to be disrespectful to the memory of a dead man. That's a MCU cheerleader, folks.


And you're basing this off of what? What evidence do you have that people were ashamed of comics?

He has no evidence. Comics were always a take it, or leave it interest at best. Some live in the fantasy world where comics are some universal treasure loved by all, when the medium, even at its all time 1940s heights, or during the "superhero boom" of the mid 1960s--was never of great importance to the average person. It was simply take it, or leave it entertainment, and had nothing to with being "ashamed". That is a nonsensical, unproven fantasy he continues to use with no success.
 
You're the only one in here crying--as you do every, single time any board member expresses their opinion on the tattered MCU.

Nah, it's just a bit of fun deflating anything pretentious. Or people with delusions of eloquence.

Aww. biitter because TDK was a solid masterpiece throughout, which respected its source, instead of being influenced by Transformers movies, such as most of the MCU.

No, I just don't worship Nolan to the point I ignore Ledger dying is what made it impossible to criticize the film and it's many flaws. Like how lazy it was to make Joker omnipotent, how wasted Dent was, how the philosophies the movie pushes is utter BS, etc.

Obviously incorrect

Nope, people aren't ashamed of stuff like Magic or Aliens that aren't stuck on Earth anymore. DC never would've had the balls to make a Superman movie where he's actually out in space on other worlds before the MCU paved the way for them. They've elevated the genre instead of selling out.

This is the reason the majority of the MCU are not the kind of films to revisit, as they cannot stand up to even a moment of rational thought.

Depends on how ashamed you are of comics and how utterly incapable you are of breaking out of your box and accepting new possibilities. Ironic for someone who is a fan of Star Trek.

Without question.

Nope, put it out today and none of Nolan's movies would be that respected. Dr Strange got a better reception than Inception did.

He thinking its clever to be disrespectful to the memory of a dead man.

It's not disrespecting him to point out his death was used as an artificial booster to make the movie impregnable.

He has no evidence. Comics were always a take it, or leave it interest at best.

Just like all science fiction and fantasy works, then.
 
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Nope, people aren't ashamed of stuff like Magic or Aliens that aren't stuck on Earth anymore. DC never would've had the balls to make a Superman movie where he's actually out in space on other worlds before the MCU paved the way for them. They've elevated the genre instead of selling out.
I am no fan of the current DCEU, but to be fair they DID make Green Lantern which had plenty of aliens and weirdness.
 
I am no fan of the current DCEU, but to be fair they DID make Green Lantern which had plenty of aliens and weirdness.

They still kept it on Earth as much as possible, only until the end fight with Parallax.

Compare to Ragnarok, which spends most of its' time on Sakaar and Asgard.
 
I think that Tim Burton's first Batman deserves inclusion though as an absolute perfect example of blending the absurdist aspects of classic comic extravagence with brutal realism. Michael Keaton is the best Batman in my opinion because he was so unfit for the role to begin with. He seemed legit crazy. And Bale, Affleck couldn't seem to access that same place of brokeness mixed with charm that he could.
Replace the first Burton movie with Batman Returns and I'd agree with most everything you said.
 
Well it's true. MCU was making movies about Thor and Cap while DC struggled to get a Superman movie out.

Not true. There were five Superman movies made long before there was an MCU. The most recent one was two years before Ironman 1. The first Donner Superman movie in the late 70s is what laid the groundwork for all super hero movies to follow . Learn your history before posting your nonsense.
 
Another $10 million for Wednesday to go with Tuesday's.
Another disaster. Not only is it the only movie that did not increase from Monday to Tuesday, but it also dropped 2/3 from last Friday! (Thanksgiving Wednesdays are compared to Fridays) This is even worse than I feared...
 
What's surprising? A pixar movie will always open at number 1...

Excpet for all the fans claiming the only competition was Star Wars, not some animated movie...

Actually according to people who've been to see Coco its preceded by a twenty minute Frozen animated short which maybe what's inflating Coco. But regardless an animated Pixar movie is outperforming a film featuring the greatest superheroes of all. And those heroes are being portrayed (for the most part as they should be).
 
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