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Just use a "Connie"!

He made one good thing, and people have rebooted that dozens of times, most of that from the fans that claim to love it. So lets not go crazy and claim everything he made was gold.
 
He made one good thing, and people have rebooted that dozens of times, most of that from the fans that claim to love it. So lets not go crazy and claim everything he made was gold.

Please, not so much admiration and gratitude for Matt Jefferies' work. It starts looking like fan idolization! :rofl:
 
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Wait a minute, since when did you give a shit about registry numbers making sense?

Sorry, are you talking to me? Because I didn't think you knew me well enough to know my thoughts on registry numbers, other than my opinion about your constant harping about zeros becoming old and tiresome.
 
As far as Jefferies goes, I imagine lots of people would love to have created something that is still talked about and used fifty years later, something that is instantly recognizable by literally billions of people. It doesn't happen often.
 
Enterprise? They didn't even have starbases in Enterprise. Indeed, the late season 4 episode Bound has the NX-01 en route to scout a planet Starfleet is considering establishing their first starbase.

Am I misremembering? I acknowledge the lack of starbases, but I was speaking more generally about how they at least accounted for the ship being repaired after taking heavy damage, by dealing with it in the following episode(s).

TNG did this occasionally too, putting the Enterprise into layover while its systems got necessary maintenance and upgrades ("01001001", "Starship Mine").

That's the kind of thing we're talking about. Instead of the ship being in perfect factory condition in every single episode, just show them having to deal with their battle damage from time to time, or having a layover to upgrade. Something as simple as a Captain's Log entry in the following episode saying how they've just left Starbase-Whatever after being repaired is enough to cover it.
 
Sorry, are you talking to me? Because I didn't think you knew me well enough to know my thoughts on registry numbers, other than my opinion about your constant harping about zeros becoming old and tiresome.
To be honest, from all our conversations about the Kelvin's registry (and we have had many these past eight years) I did get the impression registry numbers weren't important to you. It never occurred to me someone could be familiar with them and be unfazed by the zero.
Am I misremembering? I acknowledge the lack of starbases, but I was speaking more generally about how they at least accounted for the ship being repaired after taking heavy damage, by dealing with it in the following episode(s).
They did that once, in Dead Stop they're repairing the damage inflicted in Minefield. Although, I guess you could say more than once considering the damage they got fighting the Xindi did accumulate over the course of the third season, especially towards the end. But that's definitely it.
 
Please, no more Connies, at least not as a hero ship. Over the years we've had so many iterations of the "original" Enterprise that the concept of Constitution-class has become meaningless.
 
Please, no more Connies, at least not as a hero ship. Over the years we've had so many iterations of the "original" Enterprise that the concept of Constitution-class has become meaningless.
Three? Maybe, four if you count the pilots' version,is too many?
 
Oh sorry..I just nodded off while reading this post...

Daedalus, Daedalus...very ugly.

RAMA


Or, better yet, do the adventures of Captain Pike and crew. Other than the Spock casting bring problematic, I would not mind this.

D.

PS. Or use a Daedalus-class, since it would be a homage...
 
They have drugs to treat short attention spans.[/QUOT
They have drugs to treat short attention spans.
I'm going to need it after your post that's for sure. Where's the doc!???? :rommie:

Trekkie sees studio planning big elaborate show.
Trekkie sees new test footage of elaborate, expensive new ship.
Trekkie hears the show will be completely different.
Trekkie posits using a 50-year-old design from 60s TV with shaggy cheap t-shirt.

This makes perfect sense to me.
 
Three? Maybe, four if you count the pilots' version,is too many?
To me, yes. We have had original Constitution ships (with small variants), refit Constitution ("Enterprise-class") ships, alternate-universe Constitution ships in many flavors, including a significantly different 1701-A which will very likely also be tagged Constitution-class... and if STD shows the Connies they will want to reimagine the class as well...

I'm not saying that the differences can't be explained away if one wants too, but I find it dilutes the idea of what a Constitution-class ship is. It's becoming more of a concept rather than a ship design. Better just use new classes instead of another plastic surgery when one isn't really required.
 
I would love to see Connies on Discovery, or more specifically, Connie prototypes (IE the USS Constitution in its prototype form, where it looks significantly different). But I think Discovery should be its own class, maybe an older class than the Constitutions. Maybe it's the ship the Constitutions replace?

I also would love to see a variation of Drexler's NX01 refit still in service, too.

Now I'm hoping they make the Discovery a Daedalus class. (Not that ball and cylinders design though)
For the love of all that's good, please no.

I HATE the Daedalus class. I think it is the ugliest Star Trek ship ever created. I can accept them as background ships, but please don't make the Discovery a Daedalus class.

Supposedly, Discovery has been redesigned. I personally thought Discovery looked fine as is in the video, but I can accept peoples' negative opinions about it, and understand some hated it. That said, changes have been made, but to what extent, we don't know yet. I think if the proportions were changed, where the secondary hull was scaled down closer to a Connie, and the color was changed, and the nacelles tweeked to resemble something like the missing link between the NX01 nacelle and the TOS connie nacelle, I think it would appease a lot of fans who didn't like it, initially.
 
To be honest, from all our conversations about the Kelvin's registry (and we have had many these past eight years) I did get the impression registry numbers weren't important to you.

Here are some links to things I've written which should alleviate any doubt you have that I don't care about registry numbers.

Batch Number Timeline of Starship Registries: https://app.box.com/s/ok0nbvxmse2wte4bbr5d
Chronological Timeline of Starship Registries: https://app.box.com/s/fff3tw52094siaipu743
Conjectural classes: https://app.box.com/shared/4q0gobr9o3

It never occurred to me someone could be familiar with them and be unfazed by the zero.

That's quite enough of that, thanks.
 
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Here are some links to things I've written which should alleviate any doubt you have that I don't care about registry numbers.

Batch Number Timeline of Starship Registries: https://app.box.com/s/ok0nbvxmse2wte4bbr5d
Chronological Timeline of Starship Registries: https://app.box.com/s/fff3tw52094siaipu743
Conjectural classes: https://app.box.com/shared/4q0gobr9o3
Impressive. You actually are a True Fan on a scale which puts me to shame. You've been disguising yourself well these years, I never realized. I literally see you in a new light now. Though I may outrank you on the BBS, you have proven yourself my superior.
 
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