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Jurassic World - Discussion and Grading

Grade: Jurassic World

  • A+

    Votes: 8 6.6%
  • A

    Votes: 28 23.0%
  • A-

    Votes: 17 13.9%
  • B+

    Votes: 27 22.1%
  • B

    Votes: 17 13.9%
  • B-

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • C+

    Votes: 9 7.4%
  • C

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • C-

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • D+

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • Total voters
    122
  • Poll closed .
People often clap at the end of my theaters on opening weekend.

Of course, a lot of them also talk through the movie as well...
 
-Control room glares at her when the IRex escapes, but it only got out because Owen went in the cage. She also had nothing to do with making the damn thing.

He only went in there because she asked him, right? And it was another one of the workers that opened the door that ended up letting it get out - not Owen.

I'm with you on the kids wanting to stick with Owen over her though - that didn't seem earned to me - it was just a cliche.

I don't think she did tell him to go in, but I've only seen it the once and I might be wrong. She only left to check the tracker because she thought the temperature reading was a glitch, so it seems unlikely that she would.

I know it was one of the two red shirts that opened the door. The thing is, even as the scene was playing I was expecting Owen to nag at them to go back in the shelter thing because they didn't know what had happened. His scene where he Very Seriously told the newbie to never underestimate the animals seemed to be setting that up. Instead he just...followed them in. And just stood in place without keeping an eye on his surroundings. And didn't even shut the shelter-thing's door behind him.

Claire and Owen thought the I.rex had already escaped from the enclosure by clawing its way over the main gate, because they were not aware that Dr. Wu had secretly given it chameleon camouflage and thermal masking as part of using it as a testbed for military applications, so they didn't think it could still be inside the enclosure and not be visible to the naked eye or sensors.

Once Claire told the control center to activate the tracker and they all realized the Indominus was still inside the enclosure, Owen and the skinny redshirt bolted for the human-sized door they came in from on the other side of the enclosure, while the fat redshirt realized he was going to be too slow to make it, so he decided to just open the main gate behind him and run through without closing it, which is what the Indominus had been waiting for someone to do all along, hence why it faked an escape and it waited to attack until people were inside and it had them cornered in front of the main gate.

The I.rex was blocking their escape, the skinny redshirt got eaten, and Owen turned around and headed back toward the now opening main gate with the Indominus in pursuit. The control center used their override to start closing the gate, and Owen made it through just as the Indominus was about to eat him. Unfortunately, once there was enough of a gap for it to fit its head through, it tore the gates open and escaped. So Owen had no reason to try and close the gates himself because they were already closing, and immediately after he made it through, the I.rex broke down the gates anyway.
 
A bizarre stew of 21st century CGI and 1950s gender dynamics...

It wasn't great in that regard but that's hyperbolic. 50s shows and movies wouldn't typically have a woman managing a corporate facility and not prioritizing family first, or another woman having an equal say and a sympathetic role in a divorce proceeding.

Or a woman standing toe-to-toe with a man and talking back to him.
A woman making decisions on her own.
A woman handling a gun.
A woman handling and operating a gun competently.
A woman showing initiative an outside-of-the box thinking to save the day. (Seriously, by releasing the Rex she saved the day.)

Other than a couple of thin things, like her "ticking biological clock" I'd think the way the movie handled women was fairly well done. BDH was able to show a level of badassery and competence during this crisis AND do it while in heels and in a business skirt/dress.

1950s gender dynamics? Yeah, not even close. Not ideal, sure, she wasn't Ellen Ripley but she certainly wasn't June Cleaver nor treated like one.

I know it was one of the two red shirts that opened the door. The thing is, even as the scene was playing I was expecting Owen to nag at them to go back in the shelter thing because they didn't know what had happened. His scene where he Very Seriously told the newbie to never underestimate the animals seemed to be setting that up. Instead he just...followed them in. And just stood in place without keeping an eye on his surroundings. And didn't even shut the shelter-thing's door behind him.

I'm still not entirely clear on how or why they thought the I-Rex had escaped its pen.

I know there was some suggestion of complacency here with the JW staff, that they had thought of everything to keep the animals under control but even the best zoos in the world have the occasional accident and try and to stay on their toes. So, I'm first of all not sure why the tracker was ever off. Sure they know where it is, in the pen, but why have the tracker at all if it's possible to turn it off? Just have on at all times regardless if you're "sure" where it is.

But, most of all, weren't there people work in and around the pen since it was still under construction? Aren't there cameras and people all over the park? Did they really think the Fuckoffasaurus could CLIMB OVER THE WALL and tear-off without ANYONE seeing it? Or more notably hearing/feeling it if it cause a thunder and the ground to shake like when the T-Rex walks?

Wouldn't there bee footprints outside of the pen showing it walking away?

How did ever enter their minds this think escaped and took off without a shred of evidence -beyond the claw marks on the wall- and no one noticing?!
 
Why clap? It's not like the actors can hear the audience clapping.
I remember seeing this as long as I can recall going to movies. It's possibly an audience shared experience thing where they express approval with each other in that way given you're not going to chat with everyone after the movie. It's kind of a "thumbs up" thing. It doesn't always happen, but if the movie is entertaining enough and you have a good sized crowd then it's not unusual for many in the audience to clap when the credits start to roll.

I just don't see anything strange in it.
 
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I've had people clap at end of the midnight screenings for the final Harry Potter and Twilight films (Do. Not. Ask.) Twilights credits seemed specifically set up so teenage girls could 'whoot' when the actors faces came up. Which said teenage girls did.

Except for Kristen Stewert. I shit you not, the theatre just went dead fucking silent. It was like something straight out of a bad comedy, right up there with even the hardcore Twilight fans booing when it turned out all their favourite characters didn't get massacred in a giant ass battle. It was a shit movie, but a fantastic cinema experience.

I didn't cheer, but I did audibly 'aww' twice. Both times was when John Williams music showed back up in its more traditional iteration. The actual Jurassic Park theme and the 'Welcome to the Island" music playing when we enter the park for the first time and when they take the helicopter tour. That was about 10 or 20 seconds where I did feel like I was 10 years old again and being wowed by the original. It was blatantly trying to pander, but fuck cynicism - I got me some feels.
 
Clapping is part of movie-going's DNA. Remember, back in the olden days people used to treat going to the movies like going to a Broadway play, which is why really old movie theaters are so elaborately designed. Nobody thinks twice about offering applause after a bravura performance on a stage. Since movie-going is an offshoot of that, every now and then you get a movie so good the audience offers the same reward, whether the cast and crew are there for it or not.
 
I've clapped to a film when watching it home alone.

Or maybe I just danced to credits and sang the tune. But that's not OK in the theatre, so you're stuck with clapping.
 
^Yes, but they don't always land safely or successfully. Considering hundreds of people have died in plane crashes over the years, it's not that strange for people to be mildly grateful that they're still alive.
 
A bizarre stew of 21st century CGI and 1950s gender dynamics...

It wasn't great in that regard but that's hyperbolic. 50s shows and movies wouldn't typically have a woman managing a corporate facility and not prioritizing family first, or another woman having an equal say and a sympathetic role in a divorce proceeding.

Agreed. I thought the whole point of women's lib was that women could choose how masculine or feminine they wanted their roles to be. So, while we CAN have tough, kick ass female action heroes like Ellen Ripley & Sarah Connor, we can also have female characters on a softer end of the spectrum as well. The existence of one doesn't preclude the existence or validity of the other.
 
Ok, I'll cop to a bit of hyperbole, but it still felt heavy handed to me... How about early 70s lol?
...actually after a day to ponder it, I really didn't like most of the human characters. I only felt sad when the raptors died.
 
No ones saying Claire wasn't a good character because she lacked grit.

There is a more...flattering view of the film. That is that the others simply underestimated or misjudged her because if their own hang ups. We're meant to see a bulk (but not all) of the others reactions to her as being unfair. Yes, she should know the general ages of her nephews and try to at least see them after her meeting finished. Yes, micromanaging dates is taking 'control of my life' too far. No, that still doesn't mean Alexis Carrington-lite is initially running Jurassic Park.

(Yes, that was a bit of hyperbole - even mere references to Dynasty need to be OTT.)

Directors comments suggest that we aren't meant to see the movie that way, but it's what I'm sticking to for my own enjoyment.
 
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I really didn't like most of the human characters. I only felt sad when the raptors died.

The thing is that the dinosaurs have always been the stars of this franchise. The human characters are just there to move the plot along, or get eaten. ;)
 
Why clap? It's not like the actors can hear the audience clapping.

Americans? They clap shit. When we were in America, they clapped when the plane landed :rolleyes: (it's supposed to land).

Of all the problems in America at the moment, I think it's our abhorrent habit of clapping for movies and plane landings that is most worthy of international scorn. Keep up the good fight, and maybe one day you will stamp out this scourge of rogue displays of celebratory approval.

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I don't mind people clapping when the credits start, but clapping DURING a movie is very annoying.
 
Of all the problems in America at the moment, I think it's our abhorrent habit of clapping for movies and plane landings that is most worthy of international scorn. Keep up the good fight, and maybe one day you will stamp out this scourge of rogue displays of celebratory approval

There are people starving to death in Africa. I think you should worry more about that than trivial throw-away internet criticisms of American culture. But if campaigning to eradicate said internet comments is your bag, you go nuts, champ.
 
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