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Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

It's not about making all Trek fell like Tarantino movies. It's more about making Trek a more attractive landing space for high profile writers,directors and actors. It shows them they won't be restricted creatively.
 
It's not about making all Trek fell like Tarantino movies. It's more about making Trek a more attractive landing space for high profile writers,directors and actors. It shows them they won't be restricted creatively.
Problem is, I don’t feel franchises are a good place for auteur filmmakers to land, unless what they get to do is just an isolated movie or two, completely under their call. Studios these days are far too risk averse to let one director have that much power over an IP, unless it’s someone like Christopher Nolan.
 
It's not about making all Trek fell like Tarantino movies. It's more about making Trek a more attractive landing space for high profile writers,directors and actors. It shows them they won't be restricted creatively.
Just no.


Remember all the hand wringing and frustration over swearing in Discovery and Picard? The commentary on wanting more science fiction writers? The frustration at characters feeling like 21st century evil humans? Tarantino would bring all of that and the kitchen sink.

I might attract directors and it would just piss off fans. Or expose hypocrisy and double standard because it's *insert director here* free pass bullshit.
 
Just no.


Remember all the hand wringing and frustration over swearing in Discovery and Picard? The commentary on wanting more science fiction writers? The frustration at characters feeling like 21st century evil humans? Tarantino would bring all of that and the kitchen sink.

I might attract directors and it would just piss off fans. Or expose hypocrisy and double standard because it's *insert director here* free pass bullshit.

Some people are talented enough to get a pass. Kurtzman might not get away with something like Academy but if Joss Whedon back in his prime had made a similar show people would love it. I mean the quality would have been even better but also because he already had the kind of love where people want him to bring his style and tastes to something.
 
Some people are talented enough to get a pass. Kurtzman might not get away with something like Academy but if Joss Whedon back in his prime had made a similar show people would love it. I mean the quality would have been even better but also because he already had the kind of love where people want him to bring his style and tastes to something.
And that's what I find to be a double standard.
 
I don't know, Police procedurals have been pretty much in their modern form since Hill Street Blues in 1981. Is Trek so different?
Given the changes from TOS to TNG and viewer response, yes.

Right now TNG fans are starting to understand how TOS fans felt when the TNG error started and so many things were different and a lot of the aspects that they really enjoyed were changed.

And no, medical and police procedurals have changed over the years as well. Just watch a Perry Mason episode from the 1950s, and then watch either Matlock from the '80s or Law & Order from the 90s and 2000s.:shrug:

And I enjoy SNW so much because while it isn't a absolute copy/remake of TOS, it manages to retain a lot of the elements I really enjoyed from TOS and present them in an entertaining fashion.
 
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It's not about making all Trek fell like Tarantino movies. It's more about making Trek a more attractive landing space for high profile writers,directors and actors. It shows them they won't be restricted creatively.
Michael Chabon is a very well respected and high-profile writer that wrote the entirety of PICARD S1 with virtually no real creative restrictions and the support of Patrick Stewart directly.

What did you think of the results?

Generally I think you can say most TNG fans were somewhat disappointed.

My point? Getting high profile Riders and giving them creative freedom doesn't ensure the resulting product will be enjoyable to Star Trek franchise fans.

In fact I feel the idea that there's one perfect formula that will satisfy everyone is a fallacy.
 
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Right now TNG fans are starting to understand how TOS fans felt when the TNG error started and so many things were different and a lot of the aspects that they really enjoyed were changed.
When something's has "always been done a way" accepting the new will be a challenge.
 
Michael Chabon is a very well respected and high-profile righter that wrote the entirety of PICARD S1 with virtually no real creative restrictions and the support of Patrick Stewart directly.

What did you think of the results?

Generally I think you can say most TNG fans were somewhat disappointed.

My point? Getting high profile Riders and giving them creative freedom doesn't ensure the resulting product will be enjoyable to Star Trek franchise fans.

For that matter, Star Trek: Nemesis was an attempt to bring in a writer and a director with significant experience outside of Star Trek after relying on people who'd been involved with Star Trek for a long time. John Logan was a big deal as one of the writers of Gladiator.

The experiment is not generally considered a success.
 
I don't know, Police procedurals have been pretty much in their modern form since Hill Street Blues in 1981. Is Trek so different?
Very much so.

Cop shows of every stripe are a perennial format. Trek is an anomaly that was successfully revived on TV once. Its fans won't let go, but most of the audience moved on twenty years ago.
 
Ironically if they want to keep doing stuff with the canon I think they need to go to a alternate timeline were they can avoid the canon and just pick a choose stuff you sort of want to keep the same. If you go with a remake then none of it matters. Just take Trek elements and do whatever you want with them and create something that can't be connected to the old Prime timeline at all.
 
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