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Jonathan Frakes: "TATV an unpleasent memory"
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I second this.
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The best way to deal with it is to not waste so much energy complaining about it and getting on with life.
So you're going to let a disappointing finale ruin the entire series or franchise for you? Seems like a horrible waste to write off 700 hours of Star Trek because they killed Trip and Riker got fat.
I never said I "wrote off" the entire TV franchise because of the last episode. I said its poor quality soiled my view of the quality of TREK series finales. Until 2005 all the heavily-touted finales were of superb(or acceptable)quality, lasted two hours, felt like mini-movies and were able to wrap up most of their characters' subplots without a whole lot of nitpicking and grumbling. Characters were given a decent amount of screen time to shine, even if you didn't like them all that much. "TATV" screwed almost every member of the ENT cast, was too short, had a terrible script, killed of its most popular character in the most hackneyed TREK killing since Tasha Yar and earned all the bile it's had thrown its way in the past six years.
It didn't affect my love for the franchise. Just my respect for the ability of its writers and producers to end a show in style and with some class.
It didn't affect my love for the franchise. Just my respect for the ability of its writers and producers to end a show in style and with some class.
I tend to think of "TATV" as a Monkees reunion concert where they couldn't convince Davy Jones and Mike Nesmith to make an appearance. A couple of good songs...and the rest is a pain to sit through.
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Gotta admit...even though two of the four Monkees don't appear on this song it's one of my favorite from the band's catalogue. If you ignore the sheer cinema verite cheesiness of this video it's a really solid song for its time(1986).
Gotta admit...even though two of the four Monkees don't appear on this song it's one of my favorite from the band's catalogue. If you ignore the sheer cinema verite cheesiness of this video it's a really solid song for its time(1986).
Yeah. The video's a piece of crap. But the song's okay.
Well...to me anyways. Considering all the hair-band and teenybopper crap that came out in 1986 a Monkees reunion song ain't half bad.
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That song could have been recorded by anyone. It had none of the Monkee magic. I saw them live just after "Justus" had come out. Nesmith was supposed to tour, but bailed after a handful of shows, so it was the three of them and a bunch of Berklee shitheads sucking all the soul out of some classics over at The South Shore Washed Up Has Been Tent. Actually it was pretty sweet..I'm just old and jaded.
The failure to get Nesmith to participate in most of their reunion projects resulted in a lot of the creative spark of their '60s heyday being missing. Nesmith was the most talented and creative member of the quartet and some of the all-time best Monkees songs were penned by him. But he grew jaded about the band after it dissolved and rarely acknowledges it in public anymore. The other guys convinced him to make a couple of scattered appearances at reunion shows but it just wasn't the same without him in the regular lineup. He had some of the best vocals in the group's catalogue and without him the Monkees were running on half-steam.
Still...the truncated group was able to crank out a couple of good songs even if they didn't write them themselves.
Still...the truncated group was able to crank out a couple of good songs even if they didn't write them themselves.
NEVER!!!!! I don't want my pain taken away. I need my pain!
Hey man, go ahead and tear all that teenybopper crap a new ass but don't be talkin' shit about my hair bands.
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I've always loved this one from the waning period in their '60s career. Psychedelic stuff...and heavily influenced by the direction of Beatles albums at the time(1968).
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Y'know, the whole reason why they called that movie "Head" was so that if they were lucky enough to be allowed to make a second movie, they could have the ad copy read, "From the people who gave you 'Head'".
Yep. Sounds like something that would have come out of the period.
I wonder if they'd have called the follow-up film "TAIL"?
"From the people who gave you HEAD...go deep inside TAIL!"
number6
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Probably my favourite pop song of all time.
HEAD's music is sorely underrated. The Monkees may have been an artifical bubblegum group when they started but by the time of their disintegration around 1970 their catalogue was superior to those of many other "professional" groups and solo artists.
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