Spoilers Johnathan Frakes is spoiling stuff again (Season 2)
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Mary Sue Burnham... no wonder Spock never mentioned her.
Burnham will be one of the bullies that makes fun of Spock and makes him run off into the desert to find his pet Setlat I think they are called. It's the one canon thing we know about that time so they got to squeeze it in somehow. Old Spock from the cartoon episode will show up and have a heart to heart talk to her about how wrong it is to bully people.
That are they will go "Arrested Development" on us with George Micheal, Maebe type of thing. Spock will have a crush on her. He is willing to forgo logic to ask her out but she will be more into young Kirk who is also in the episode. The Steve Holt of the episode. He decides to embrace logic and history is made.
Jason
That are they will go "Arrested Development" on us with George Micheal, Maebe type of thing. Spock will have a crush on her. He is willing to forgo logic to ask her out but she will be more into young Kirk who is also in the episode. The Steve Holt of the episode. He decides to embrace logic and history is made.
Jason
Good thing she isn't a Mary Sue.
(Trek wins)
Nah. Not at all. She just accomplished pretty much everything Spock accomplished in his career in a six month period.
Spock is just Michael Burnham's stuck up little brother in this new timeline.
Not really, no.
Let's see...
She time traveled first...
...fought a Klingon war first...
...was decorated by the Federation first...
...was a first officer first...
...was in line for her own command first...
...mutinied first...
...encountered the Mirror Universe first...
That was just six months in her life. Imagine what she'll accomplish over four or five decades?
You and I clearly differ on the definition of accomplishment
Spock has one of the best written and interesting character arcs in Star Trek (albeit a property not known for character development) and Burnham isn't even nipping at his heels, in my book. Ultimately, STD characters should start to supplant earlier characters' development because it's not episodic and they are actually meant to be developing. But not yet, with the exceptions of those Trek characters who were literally identical in pilot and finale, like Kim and Travis.
These don't feel like Mary Sue things. Trek has a long and annoying history of making it's heros the best of the best at everything. If this was the case then Kirk would have been the first Mary Sue. A Mary Sue would be a character whose flaws and mistakes are not acknowledged by the writers with the scripts. Where he or she is always right even when they are wrong Set up Stawmen arguments for them to constantly win. . Actually it's a concept that is very common in lots of sci-fi and action shows and movies. It's more of a genre trope because you don't really see that in your more edgy mainstream shows like "Breaking Bad" or "Sopranos" and etc.
Jason
That is the very foundation the Burnham character was built on. That she was right about the Klingons.
Again, I must deploy
. In fact, I might go double barreled. She was very much wrong about the Klingons. That's what he whole arc was about, culminating in her standing up to authority again, but on the other side of the argument.
She was very much right. They destroy the floating Klingon goth castle and there would've been no war.
You may believe that, but the show does not. Her arc is based on her being wrong.
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