Lucky them. Or not. They'll have to wait over a month to see the second episode.
Jessica Jones-- Marvel/Netflix
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My thought exactly.
Non-spoiler review of the first episode at Io9 is very positive.
While I'm sure the episode is good, I take io9's television reviews with a grain of salt. They tend to be overly enthusiastic and superlative with everything.
Both Collider and IGN have given highly favourable reviews also to the pilot, specifically noting that it was darker and more "adult" still than Daredevil.
Not surprising given the source material, but at some point the creators are going to have to be at least a little wary of digging deeper into the "darkness" well, given they could start to alienate some of the audience. For all of its storytelling and fairly well drawn characters, Daredevil almost came unglued due to its exceptionally dour tone and humour imbalance.
It seems clear from recent interviews and the pilot reviews that Jessica will be pretty grim, and with S2 of Daredevil playing the Punisher card, I think they will have to look at a different tonal balance for Luke Cage or Iron Fist, if for no reason than having four tragic and grim characters playing in The Defenders could make for interminable viewing.
Still, Jessica/Alias was a Maxx imprint and I'm happy to see a close tone-translation in this instance, but if the Netflix MU crew are all going to be so dour it could be hard to digest unless the creators begin to develop a lighter side to their characters and their shared universe.
Hugo - hoping that Ritter can pull off the weariness of the character in the Alias books as her exhaustion of the world and events around her are central imo to the character
Not surprising given the source material, but at some point the creators are going to have to be at least a little wary of digging deeper into the "darkness" well, given they could start to alienate some of the audience. For all of its storytelling and fairly well drawn characters, Daredevil almost came unglued due to its exceptionally dour tone and humour imbalance.
It seems clear from recent interviews and the pilot reviews that Jessica will be pretty grim, and with S2 of Daredevil playing the Punisher card, I think they will have to look at a different tonal balance for Luke Cage or Iron Fist, if for no reason than having four tragic and grim characters playing in The Defenders could make for interminable viewing.
Still, Jessica/Alias was a Maxx imprint and I'm happy to see a close tone-translation in this instance, but if the Netflix MU crew are all going to be so dour it could be hard to digest unless the creators begin to develop a lighter side to their characters and their shared universe.
Hugo - hoping that Ritter can pull off the weariness of the character in the Alias books as her exhaustion of the world and events around her are central imo to the character
Didn't think you could get darker and more adult than Daredevil.
I thought there was plenty of terrific character humor in DD, with Foggy and Karen being particularly funny in their interplay with Matt and with each other. I found it an effective balance that kept it from being too grim.
And Krysten Ritter has a lot of comedy experience. I didn't see that sitcom she was in, but I remember her from Veronica Mars. Hopefully there will be some dark or sardonic humor in her performance to lighten things up some. I bet Tennant will find a way to work some sinister humor into Killgrave.
That might just mean, we see a nipple or two...
Well 'Daredevil' was (literal sense aside) only "dark and adult" in terms of tone (specifically a crime drama) with some occasional unflinchingly brutal graphic violence.
If 'Jessica Jones' sticks close to the source material then it will be much more mature in terms of the subject matter. It's not a matter of blood, violence or the presence of boobies, but the kind of topics it deals with. Can't articulate it very well without getting into spoilers, but let's just say the nasty stuff is much more psychological than physical.
Also, the central character is much more down and out than in Daredevil. Matt Murdock is basically slumming it in his struggling law practice so he can Batman it up in his spare time. Jessica Jones has no alternative; she's not a PI working for scummy clients so she can be some vigilante on the side, she's doing it because she can't make a living any other way.
Short version: Matt Murdock is a martial artist zen master while Jessica Jones is a hard drinking, brawling hot mess, about two rungs up from rock bottom.
Perhaps it was more of a "not-my-type-of-quippy-humour", but barring one episode (flashback to Matt/Foggy college days) I found a great deal of the humour to be forced into the equation rather than flowing naturally. I'm not sure if Foggy's humour was "trying to hard" because the character was trying to hard, or the writers were. It was the kink in the armour for me for the show (along with 8 episodes worth of story deconstructed into 12 or so) and something I hope they take more time to address in series two.
Being a D/D and J/J fan I came into the adventure with a preferred style in mind (Waid over Bendis/Miller for D/D specifically) but knowing they would likely trip into the Dark Knight-style territory. The Dark Knight over 2.5 hours felt right. 13 hours of it in D/D almost became a chore at times. And this is from a fan of the lightest TV fare such as Millennium, and Rectify where an ounce of hope is rarely seen.
I know little to nothing about Luke Cage so have no idea what to expect in tone, and my only experience of Iron Fist is from wonderful Brubaker/Fractions Immortal... series. There was a lightness of touch to the adventure running along side the darker mystical aspects and family drama, which I would love to see, and Danny Rand could be the lighter character to help even out the equation.
What I hope for, if/when we reach the Defenders series is a rainbow of characters rather than a grungy quartet and sidekicks. With D/D seemingly playing up the Bendis/Miller tropes and J/J playing in some very dark territory if it follows the Alias comic arc, then I worry for Cage and Fist travelling the same paths.
Maybe I'm just dying to see a Fraction Hawkeye take somewhere in this universe, as it settled into the same "day in the life, grounded" approach that D/D went for, but with a real flair for humour that set it apart from most else in recent Marvel runs.
Hugo - note, I am VERY excited that J/J looks like it is matching the tone of this comic and iteration of the character.
I'm a fan of Waid Daredevil too, but I felt the show was a good mix of Miller-style and Waid-style DD. Keep in mind, I'm not normally a fan of grim-for-its-own-sake. I got really sick of Battlestar Galactica mistaking gratuitous nastiness for intelligence. But Daredevil (the show) worked well for me.
Yeah, I tend to like Daredevil slightly brighter than the Netflix series, but I didn't think it came unglued at all. I thought it was consistent throughout. Certainly, the darkness didn't seem to be a problem.
IGN's review said that their is some fairly explicit sex, which made for some awkward moments since there were some kids in the audience, but no nudity.
In fairness, not much happens in most Bendis's comics. The trick is to read ten of them and you'll have a full story
In all seriousness, it seems to be a teaser to set up the character and to show what she's doing at the end of Daredevil season one. Plus, it's cool to see how Gaydos draws Krysten Ritter compared to Jessica Jones of the comics. The black hair definitely doesn't help my confusing her with Jessica Drew, but, otherwise, I can see it.
Yeah, the writing in the comic was actually mature, not just "Rated M For Mature."
Jessica in the comics behaved like she had Turrets because she is the 80 pound gorilla in the room.
Selfeddting your swears isn't going to make your life better if constant swearing is the only thing keeping you in a happy place where you don't have to fold people's brand new sportscars into origami swans.
The Jessica Jone's experience is like a hot Steve martin from trains Planes and Automobiles where he's chewing out that clerk at the bus station, in a loop
Okay.
Sorry.
A "hotter" Steve Martin.
Selfeddting your swears isn't going to make your life better if constant swearing is the only thing keeping you in a happy place where you don't have to fold people's brand new sportscars into origami swans.
The Jessica Jone's experience is like a hot Steve martin from trains Planes and Automobiles where he's chewing out that clerk at the bus station, in a loop
Okay.
Sorry.
A "hotter" Steve Martin.
Full trailer is out, still looking pretty good so far. Though that just might be that song penetrating my head like the Purple Man.
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I can't figure out the lyrics there. "I am the stall?" "I and this doll?" I've never been good at deciphering lyrics.
