Jennifer Lien in trouble again?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by oskarr, Jan 4, 2018.

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  1. Prax

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    What propaganda? I only quoted Lien. If anything, it's clear from these interviews that the idea to have an ironic reversal on Kes's magical powers, and have her become an antagonist came from Fuller and it being the Kes that Lien wanted back to play.
     
  2. Lynx

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    A little misunderstanding here.

    I wasn't referring to your quotes from Lien, I was referring to quotes from Berman, Braga and Fuller in Darren's movieblog. There were some of them there.

    I won't call the the idea "ironic reversal of her powers", I would rather call what they came up with disgusting.

    As for Lien, if she really wanted to do this on these conditions, then she actually insulted the fans of the character she played with great skill for three years. As I wrote before, she did lose a lot of points in my book for participating in that piece of s**t.
     
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    I have a task for you, Lynx. Rewrite the episode in a rough outline while maintaining the general circumstances. Kes comes back suddenly in a shuttle in late season 6. She can only stay for one episode. She looks to be in her 60's. What happens next?
     
  4. BillJ

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    This is really debatable. Talented actor who took on a poorly thought out character. Her and Wang were the weak links in the show. For the three seasons she was there, the only real standout was "Warlord", where she wasn't really playing Kes.

    The only mistake the producers made was not torpedoing Harry Kim at the same time they ditched Kes.
     
  5. Geetha Stachowiak

    Geetha Stachowiak Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Please, post the link where Lien says she liked the concept and script for 'Fury.' I'd like to read more about that.

    I don't see Lien's words "...things pretty much still seem the same here..." as meaning it feels like it's right back in the saddle. To me, her words means exactly that - that things had not changed on the set. There's a huge difference between things not changing, and being back in the saddle. You can come back years later and do the same thing and have it feel completely different, even if you're going through the exact same motions. Notice that Lien follows up that statement with: "It doesn’t feel like any time has passed, whereas in my own personal life, time has passed and I can definitely feel that." That means unequivocally, that time seems to have stood still on the set, which is one definition of stagnation ('standing still').

    To me, looking up things on the internet is research. It clarified things for me. I don't know about you, but I've worked on a film set, and reading the various posts shed more light on the situation - **for me.** If it did not do so for you, oh well. You're not obliged to read my comments.
     
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    I think this thread has run it's course. More off topic now anyway. I think we all wish Jennifer the best as she moves forward in life.
     
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