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James Cameron's Avatar Sequels Possible Titles Revealed

Yeah about all that:
Terminator: Dark Fate would like a word...
Read: Worldwide BO: $261 million on a budget of $185 million = severe underperformance in the best light/Box Office bomb in the worst.

That's not even a remotely relevant comparison. The terminator franchise has been in the doldrums that much that I'm surprised dark fate even got made in the first place.

Avatar 2 is not only directed by Cameron (and not just produced) but is the sequel to the most successful film of all time*

*yes I know endgame has just beaten it, but only just and it took a decade, adjusted for inflation etc...
 
'Avatar' Sequel Comic 'The Next Shadow' coming from Dark Horse, January 2021

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4-issue miniseries set in the immediate aftermath of the original movie.
 
Cool. I was kinda meh on the concept behind Tsu'tey's Pth, but this one sounds a lot more interesting.
 
Interesting discussion. For the record, I haven't even seen Avatar, yet I read 10 pages of this thread... We do have Disney+, though, so you never know. :p

Anyway, for what it's worth, if the movies are any good, they might just rekindle some people's interest in going to the movies again. I don't really enjoy 3D, it takes more than 30 minutes for my eyes to adjust, and more often than not, I'm left with a headache. But I think that it's going to take something pretty special to get the crowds back into theaters even when we eventually either beat COVID or learn to live with it as a recurrent visitor, like influenza.

I count myself as a pretty big James Cameron fan, though. I like Aliens better than Alien, I don't like excessive gore much, but I really can't deal with psychological terror; Alien is fine, but you'll never get me to watch Psycho or The Ring, and Aliens is fine, but I can't deal with splatter movies like the SAW franchise. For a long time, The Abyss - Director's cut, which included a lot of the character development that was left out of the movie release, was one of my favorite movies, and I think that T1 and T2 are the only movies in the franchise worth watching (T3 was meh, Salvation and Genisys were just the same old, same old, and I haven't even bothered to see Dark Fate).

By the time Titanic was released, that horrid theme song had had so much airplay that I'd switch stations as soon as it came on, and I made up my mind to never see the movie. And I didn't, until I saw it with my husband, on DVD on a tiny 21 in screen in his bachelor apartment, when we first started dating (he was like "So, you like James Cameron and haven't seen Titanic? You must see it!). I did enjoy it, although I insisted on muting that horrid theme song.

When Avatar came out, I was at home with our 6-month-old and going to the movies wasn't really on my radar then.

So, do you think Avatar 2 will get people back to the movies or has that ship sailed?
 
Avatar 2 is currently scheduled for December 2022, so there are a lot of big franchise movies coming out before then (yes, they might be moved again, but in that case, so presumably would Avatar 2). The next Batman movie is scheduled for March 2022, the next Spider-Man movie is scheduled for December 2021, the next Fast & Furious is at May 2021, the next Jurassic is set for June 2022. And that's just a few of them. So I don't think it's really Avatar 2 which will bring people back to the theater. I know of a lot of people who can't wait to go back to theaters as soon as a tested vaccine is on the market. Hell, there are even a few people going to theaters now, I myself went to the movies twice in the last couple of months.

What Avatar 2 could be, though, is the first movie with a box office on the same level as blockbusters pre-CoVID, like 1.5 billion +. But that is idle speculation at this point.

What is interesting, though, is that on the current release schedule Avatar 2 would open the same day as Aquaman 2. I can't imagine that staying this way, neither Disney/20th, nor WB/DC want that.
 
I think movie budgets are going to have to be scaled back until the Covid fear recedes, which may take years. Just not as many butts in theater seats.
 
Maybe theaters will have to drop their prices, too. I'm not afraid of Covid19, but many people are, and they might need the pot sweetened a bit.
 
Hell, at this point I'd say there's a least a small chance there might not even be movie theaters anymore by December 2022.
AMC, which is one of the biggest theater chains in the US, and possibly even the world, is saying they might be out of money by the end of the year. If they're in that much trouble, then I don't even want to image what kind of shape all of the smaller companies will be in when next year rolls around.
 
Hell, at this point I'd say there's a least a small chance there might not even be movie theaters anymore by December 2022.
AMC, which is one of the biggest theater chains in the US, and possibly even the world, is saying they might be out of money by the end of the year. If they're in that much trouble, then I don't even want to image what kind of shape all of the smaller companies will be in when next year rolls around.
The biggest cinema provider in the UK is closing because Bond was pulled. Whether they reopen is unclear yet.

I don't see cinema dying for good. But this could turn into a watershed moment.
 
Not every country is as wired as the US is. For some places, deleting theaters is deleting entertainment.
 
Yeah, things are going to be different for a long time. There's no question that the whole industry has been disrupted. The matter now, is not wether people are ready or will be ready to go, but rather will the industry be ready to adapt to the changing circumstances.
 
Not every country is as wired as the US is. For some places, deleting theaters is deleting entertainment.

That's true, although I expect that those same places would also be less dependent on Hollywood-produced stuff (I'm thinking of places like the Middle East, China, and India, as well as parts of South-East Asia, where they have strong domestic markets. Some parts of South-East Asia are even more wired than much of the US or Europe is, like South Korea.

At least in Western countries, the studios and distributors take in most of the money from blockbusters, and the movie theaters make their profits from the concession stands, which is why many frown on you bringing your own snacks and drinks with you. Now, with the mask mandate in many places, even if the theaters are able to stay open, their means of making a profit is gone.
 
Covid might have taken 200,000 lives, but our "adjustment" to it is going to ruin millions. Between lost livelihood (the only job I've ever managed to hold for over 18 months), brutal isolation, and weight gain, my own life is rapidly disintegrating. I doubt I'm the only one.
 
I just want to point out that the thread is going in a direction that already got other threads temporarily closed. There are several other threads in several other subforums that specifically deal with the impact of CoVID, be it on politics, everyday life, or on cinema. Maybe move the current discussion over to those threads.
 
Good point. In any case, I rarely watched movies in theaters before this nightmare began. And honestly, I have little interest in Avatar, a movie that effectively celebrates humanity's destruction.
 
Are these the first movies to use mo-cap under water? I know it was a big thing when they came up with the system with the ping pong balls, or whatever they, are on the surface, and it sounded like it was something they had to develop to do the underwater stuff.
I wonder if they'll use the same system for future Aquman movies or if they'll stick to faking it all? Obviously dialog scenes and action scenes couldn't be done that way, but they could use it for scenes where they're just swimming around.
 
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