Jake Sisko - Completely Unlikeable

[Jayson1]

My bad, you're right. Season 3. Although he was already writing poetry in early season 3 (The Abandoned). Even though that may have been only to impress Mardah it still counts.

Actually when you think about it you can even go back to season 1 when Sisko caught him teaching Nog how to read.

Jason

 

[mlbach]

Loved Jake. I think he was the main reason that Nog became civilized. When ds9 started Nog was practically feral.

 

[Neetza512]

On that note, does anyone know why that was? What was the deal with Cirroc Lofton's contract? How was he ostensibly a regular despite appearing in less than half the series?

Also if he was under 18 when filming started, there's laws about how much time he could spend filming.

 

[Armus]

I liked Jake for the first three seasons or so. He seemed a little smarmy in the later years. My main disapointment with DS9 was its uneven casting but when the writers recognized and catered to each actor's range, most of the actors did OK. Jake was best kept with as little screen time as possible. He did have chemistry with Avery Brooks, Nog, and his grandfather.

 

[imdbrefugee]

Count me in as a huge Jake fan as well. Easily the best kid in ST and a solid character in his own right.

 

[HugeLobes]

If you're going to write a kid/teenager in this kind of show, you need to walk a fine line between having him/her too moody and having him/her too idealistic. Jake hits the spot.

Also, Cirroc Lofton should be the highest paid Trek actor solely for having to wear those ridiculous costumes.

 

[kkt]

If you're going to write a kid/teenager in this kind of show, you need to walk a fine line between having him/her too moody and having him/her too idealistic. Jake hits the spot.

Also, Cirroc Lofton should be the highest paid Trek actor solely for having to wear those ridiculous costumes.

Ridiculous costumes? Hey, at least he didn't have to spend 3 AM to 6 AM getting made up like the Ferengi and Klingons.

 

[STEPhon IT]

I liked Jake for the first three seasons or so. He seemed a little smarmy in the later years. My main disapointment with DS9 was its uneven casting but when the writers recognized and catered to each actor's range, most of the actors did OK. Jake was best kept with as little screen time as possible. He did have chemistry with Avery Brooks, Nog, and his grandfather.

Making Jake a writer was unceremoniously writing him out of the series. He was completely irrelevant after the great episode "The Visitor", a 4th season episode which was a real shocker to me, I thought him as a writer couldn't propel his character through the war narrative the producers were hungry for. I wanted Jake to be a designer or an architect so he would have something to do when Bajor space was becoming more integral in the Star Trek formula (Klingons, Romulans etc).

"What You Leave Behind" final scene has Jake on the station without his Dad... I'd thrown up my hands in disgust, saying "Where does the character go from here???"

I agree, I enjoyed Jake a lot better in the 1st 3 seasons of the series.

 

[Tosk]

He was completely irrelevant after the great episode "The Visitor"

Except in Homefront, Paradise Lost, Shattered Mirror, The Muse, Nor the Battle to the Strong, Rapture, In the Cards, Valiant, Image in the Sand, Shadows and Symbols, and Take Me Out to the Holosuite. At least.

And I really like him and Quark together in The Sound of Her Voice.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Compared to Wesley Crusher, he was WAAAYYYY better portrayal of a kid

 

[Trekdiva2020]

Omg I could not STAND the Jake character. I get being relatable but he was down right annoying and bratty. It was hard to believe that a Ben Sisko would have a son like him. It might not have been so bad if the writers had matured him a little like it wanted to report on the injustice of the galaxy or something. But instead they made it the byline hqppy writer just satisfied with his name in print.

 

[TheSeeker]

Welcome to Trek BBS Trekdiva2020! Just a heads up that we usually ask members not to resurrect old threads if they have been dormant for over a year. You are more than welcome to create a new thread if you really want to continue exploring the subject.

Having said that, I will leave this one open since you you can't be expected to know all the rules on day 1. (Also, thread resurrection doesn't really bother me all that much. )

 

[dupersuper]

He taught Nog to read and dated a dabo girl: he was alright by me.

 

[arch101]

Jake was a great character. For once in a tv show- the child of the star didn't want to follow in the star's career footsteps. PRAISE THE PROPHETS- IT CAN BE DONE! Making him a writer worked brilliantly when the war came along and he became a war corespondent. Lofton played Jake's growing maturity very well- the tired man on the Promenade with Kira in the final scene looks a lot more than 7 years from the whiny boy complaining about a mat on the floor in the pilot.
And double kudos to the show's writers for Jake's career choice because it allowed Nog to become one of the show's standout characters instead of comic relief.

 

[plynch]

I liked him fine.

 

[at Quark's]

I never thought Jake was particularly unlikable, though he had his "difficult" periods as a teen, of course.

But I didn't see any qualities that really endeared him to me, either.

 

[HugeLobes]

It’s been ages since I watched the whole series, but thinking back I can’t remember any instances of him being bratty or annoying. Anyone refresh my memory?

 

[DonIago]

I remember him getting into arguments with Nog where he came off as less than awesome, but bratty? No.

Even at his worst he was generally more watchable than Wesley Crusher.

 

[mlbach]

I loved Wesley, too. I saw him as Gene Roddenberry’s alter ego. (His full name was Eugene Wesley Roddenberry.) When Roddenberry died in ‘91, I saw the TNG episode where Wesley stops time and then goes off with the Traveler as a comment on what Gene was doing in the afterlife—playing in other planes of existence.

 

[DonIago]

Funny you should say that. I started to get over my animus toward Wesley after "The Game" and "The First Duty", two episodes which I felt did a lot to make him more relatable, and then "Journey's End"(?) came along and made me loathe the character again.