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A whole day for humping?
Where do you get the energy?
A whole day for humping?
Where do you get the energy?
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I've been wondering, Jeri and Kate did not get along and Jeri had said the guys were great but what about Roxann? Any findings on whether they were friendly with each other or not?
I've been wondering, Jeri and Kate did not get along and Jeri had said the guys were great but what about Roxann? Any findings on whether they were friendly with each other or not?
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Implying that Jeri didn't get along with Kate is supposing a relationship of equals.
Kate wanted to destroy her, and Jeri took it.
Later Kate, after Jeri and Braga hooked up, wanted to be friends and Jeri took it.
Just because Jeri hated what Kate was doing to her, it doesn't mean that she hated Kate.
It's a survival technique.
At least that's one diagnose of the pathology at work, because if Jeri hated Kate back it would have been a very short war and not years worth of ongoing peer abuse.
Jeri Hooking up with Braga feels like the apocryphal Prison rules. You become the toughest guys boyfriend so that ten other tough guys don't rape you in the shower, every time you take a shower.
If Kate hadn't been riding Jeri (Mental image. You're welcome.) would she still have responded favourably to romantic involvement with Brannon? Was it necessary and tactically contrived or a happy accident?
Actually, I always assumed he initiated. Y'know because of what she does to pants. Fortune favours the bold. Although as an employer he's a fucking idiot to initiate a relationship with his staff, even in the 1990s if I am to believe my Ally McBeal.
And I do.
I believe that everything that happened on Ally McBeal was %100 real.
Implying that Jeri didn't get along with Kate is supposing a relationship of equals.
Kate wanted to destroy her, and Jeri took it.
Later Kate, after Jeri and Braga hooked up, wanted to be friends and Jeri took it.
Just because Jeri hated what Kate was doing to her, it doesn't mean that she hated Kate.
It's a survival technique.
At least that's one diagnose of the pathology at work, because if Jeri hated Kate back it would have been a very short war and not years worth of ongoing peer abuse.
Jeri Hooking up with Braga feels like the apocryphal Prison rules. You become the toughest guys boyfriend so that ten other tough guys don't rape you in the shower, every time you take a shower.
If Kate hadn't been riding Jeri (Mental image. You're welcome.) would she still have responded favourably to romantic involvement with Brannon? Was it necessary and tactically contrived or a happy accident?
Actually, I always assumed he initiated. Y'know because of what she does to pants. Fortune favours the bold. Although as an employer he's a fucking idiot to initiate a relationship with his staff, even in the 1990s if I am to believe my Ally McBeal.
And I do.
I believe that everything that happened on Ally McBeal was %100 real.
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I never said that Jeri hated Kate, which leads me to another question: did Kate hate Jeri because her character resulted in the firing of Jennifer Lien or did she actually hate Jeri?
I do know part of the reason was because Kate wanted to prove to everyone that there could be a show with a strong female lead who didn't use their sexuality to get ahead, and then there's this sexy space girl who kind of defeats the purpose.
That I understand but it's not a reason to hate the actress, it's the writers and producers who are to blame.
Also, back to my original question: any known evidence that Jeri and Roxann got along or not?
I never said that Jeri hated Kate, which leads me to another question: did Kate hate Jeri because her character resulted in the firing of Jennifer Lien or did she actually hate Jeri?
I do know part of the reason was because Kate wanted to prove to everyone that there could be a show with a strong female lead who didn't use their sexuality to get ahead, and then there's this sexy space girl who kind of defeats the purpose.
That I understand but it's not a reason to hate the actress, it's the writers and producers who are to blame.
Also, back to my original question: any known evidence that Jeri and Roxann got along or not?
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This was sort of my reaction to the quotes from Jeri, because she was careful not to name a specific person. Her mentioning many scenes in astrometrics makes me think of Roxann, since they had scenes there in Season 4. Interpretations always seem to suggest she's talking about Kate, but maybe she wasn't. With Jennifer gone, Rox was in position to become the young hot babe of the show, then an outsider shows up.
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Roxann had ten years on Jeri.
vs.
Germany?
(American parents. The dad was a soldier stationed there.)
(Oh. Thank you.)
(No problem.)
Was this why (I doubt it) they dropped the EMH's attachment to the name Zimmerman?
Roxann had ten years on Jeri.
vs.
Germany?
(American parents. The dad was a soldier stationed there.)
(Oh. Thank you.)
(No problem.)
Was this why (I doubt it) they dropped the EMH's attachment to the name Zimmerman?
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Maybe but even without Seven, B'Elanna was never a major major (yes the double wording was intentional) character. Neither was Kes. Janeway was always the big female lead, obviously because she was the captain. So if Seven hadn't been added after Jennifer was fired, I think things would have stayed the same. That's just my opinion at least.
Maybe but even without Seven, B'Elanna was never a major major (yes the double wording was intentional) character. Neither was Kes. Janeway was always the big female lead, obviously because she was the captain. So if Seven hadn't been added after Jennifer was fired, I think things would have stayed the same. That's just my opinion at least.
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What does age have to do with whether or not they got along?
What does age have to do with whether or not they got along?
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Is it wrong that I want Kate to pay enough attention to me so that she can hate me?
Is it wrong that I want Kate to pay enough attention to me so that she can hate me?
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I was responding to a post that said...
I was responding to a post that said...
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But she's half Klingon so she can look a lot younger than she is.
T'Pol was 63.
But she's half Klingon so she can look a lot younger than she is.
T'Pol was 63.
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Negative attention is still attention, Teacake. Seems a little infantile but hey with how popular she's getting take what you can if it doesn't send you into a corner crying. I surmise you'd be turned on and then run back, "was it wrong? Oh who cares!" *bask*
Negative attention is still attention, Teacake. Seems a little infantile but hey with how popular she's getting take what you can if it doesn't send you into a corner crying. I surmise you'd be turned on and then run back, "was it wrong? Oh who cares!" *bask*
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Sorry I'd rather her never know me than know me and hate me. I would be crying otherwise.
Sorry I'd rather her never know me than know me and hate me. I would be crying otherwise.
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Sorry. Sometimes it's hard for me to tell unless the response is directly quoted from me.
Sorry. Sometimes it's hard for me to tell unless the response is directly quoted from me.
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I'm older than Jeri, Roxann, and Kate, so they're all young hot babes to me.
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I'm sure they would all love you for saying that
I'm sure they would all love you for saying that
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Klingons age quickly in the beginning, and then forget to die of old age almost always.
A 7 year old klingon can appear to be an adult.
The Character B'Elanna Torres was 24 in Caretaker, which means that she had been an adult for possibly 17 years, which means that the character was developmentally the same age as a human adult if human adulthood begins at 21.
Although considering Kes (and Tuvok.), they should have deigned as a 12 years old and still cast exactly the same 38 year old actress.
Klingons age quickly in the beginning, and then forget to die of old age almost always.
A 7 year old klingon can appear to be an adult.
The Character B'Elanna Torres was 24 in Caretaker, which means that she had been an adult for possibly 17 years, which means that the character was developmentally the same age as a human adult if human adulthood begins at 21.
Although considering Kes (and Tuvok.), they should have deigned as a 12 years old and still cast exactly the same 38 year old actress.
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I don't think either of them hated each other.
I listened to a really long radio interview one time where Kate talked about how it was hard to have Jeri come in and take the spotlight right after they fired Jennifer Lien. She praised Jeri immensely for her acting ability and her performance on the show, but there was a tad bit of bitterness there.
At the risk of sounding petty, I felt similarly towards a girl at my job. I worked as a game designer for an MMORPG for about 5 years. After the first few years, I pretty much knew the site and could do my job with my eyes closed. Then suddenly they brought this girl from Korea in who barely had any experience and suddenly they were second guessing every idea I had and the rest of the design team had and even though I was the manager, they kept treating her like she had some sort of great knowledge, bypassing our opinions and going to her. I didn't want to misjudge this girl, but I was so angry because of how the management was fawning over her, that I ended up being snippy and petty with her, snapping at her. I knew it was unprofessional and I tried to stop. I eventually quit the company and got a better job and sort of apologized to her because I knew she had done NOTHING wrong. It was my own problem. No matter how nasty I was to this girl, did it mean I hated her? Absolutely not. It was just anger about how our workplace was changing and functioning.
My point being, ANY time you are in a creative environment where there are egos involved (and in a creative environment no matter how well you work together on the goal, there are always egos involved), there is going to be that kind of tension in those situations.
When I read Kate's and Jeri's sides to the story, it made complete sense to me. I know it's bad to say, but when I hear both of them I understand where each of them are coming from. I think it would have been good for everyone to put aside their egos and loyalties and work on the product, but I understand the unfortunate emotion of not being able to hold in your bitterness. She probably feels bad about it.
I don't think either of them hated each other.
I listened to a really long radio interview one time where Kate talked about how it was hard to have Jeri come in and take the spotlight right after they fired Jennifer Lien. She praised Jeri immensely for her acting ability and her performance on the show, but there was a tad bit of bitterness there.
At the risk of sounding petty, I felt similarly towards a girl at my job. I worked as a game designer for an MMORPG for about 5 years. After the first few years, I pretty much knew the site and could do my job with my eyes closed. Then suddenly they brought this girl from Korea in who barely had any experience and suddenly they were second guessing every idea I had and the rest of the design team had and even though I was the manager, they kept treating her like she had some sort of great knowledge, bypassing our opinions and going to her. I didn't want to misjudge this girl, but I was so angry because of how the management was fawning over her, that I ended up being snippy and petty with her, snapping at her. I knew it was unprofessional and I tried to stop. I eventually quit the company and got a better job and sort of apologized to her because I knew she had done NOTHING wrong. It was my own problem. No matter how nasty I was to this girl, did it mean I hated her? Absolutely not. It was just anger about how our workplace was changing and functioning.
My point being, ANY time you are in a creative environment where there are egos involved (and in a creative environment no matter how well you work together on the goal, there are always egos involved), there is going to be that kind of tension in those situations.
When I read Kate's and Jeri's sides to the story, it made complete sense to me. I know it's bad to say, but when I hear both of them I understand where each of them are coming from. I think it would have been good for everyone to put aside their egos and loyalties and work on the product, but I understand the unfortunate emotion of not being able to hold in your bitterness. She probably feels bad about it.
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The Season 4 dvd interviews (I think) have Kate talking about Seven's introduction to the series. She said when first saw Jeri on the set in the silver suit with the lights and smoke machines, she told Picardo they should go out and celebrate because the ratings will go up and they'll all get a raise. She knew a sexbomb character would boost ratings. But she praised Ryan's acting ability and how well Jeri made the character work, simultaneously admitted bittersweet feelings they'd lost Jennifer. It seemed she did have professional respect for Ryan's acting ability.
The most important thing of course, is Mulgrew and Ryan definitely had onscreen chemistry together, which in the end is all that matters.
The Season 4 dvd interviews (I think) have Kate talking about Seven's introduction to the series. She said when first saw Jeri on the set in the silver suit with the lights and smoke machines, she told Picardo they should go out and celebrate because the ratings will go up and they'll all get a raise. She knew a sexbomb character would boost ratings. But she praised Ryan's acting ability and how well Jeri made the character work, simultaneously admitted bittersweet feelings they'd lost Jennifer. It seemed she did have professional respect for Ryan's acting ability.
The most important thing of course, is Mulgrew and Ryan definitely had onscreen chemistry together, which in the end is all that matters.
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Yeah, they had amazing chemistry on screen. Also when you feel challenged a bit, it does make you sort of want to step up your game. Jeri probably felt like she was playing an important new character (and ratings booster) and needed to have her acting game on. Also the fact that she probably felt she had to prove herself, as in she wasn't just a sexy character, that she had real talent. Whereas Kate always had her game on, but that extra little bit of competition doesn't hurt.
All in all, I love them together on screen. And whenever Kate discusses Jeri Ryan, she always praises her acting ability.
Yeah, they had amazing chemistry on screen. Also when you feel challenged a bit, it does make you sort of want to step up your game. Jeri probably felt like she was playing an important new character (and ratings booster) and needed to have her acting game on. Also the fact that she probably felt she had to prove herself, as in she wasn't just a sexy character, that she had real talent. Whereas Kate always had her game on, but that extra little bit of competition doesn't hurt.
All in all, I love them together on screen. And whenever Kate discusses Jeri Ryan, she always praises her acting ability.
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