J. Ryan Speaks About Her ‘Intentionally Unpleasant’ Experiences on VOY

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Knew what?

Am I typing in Welsh? Did I not just give you a respectful, considered response?

You can't just say...."I knew it".....or......"because it is"

Good grief

 

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Emilia is posting nude disgusting pictures of naked men!

There is no decency!

Oh?

He's wearing a hat.

Never mind.

 

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Books is what they called tv when I was young?

 

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In which case digging in your heels immaturely to avoid admitting an incredibly obvious and basic error ought to be beneath you. And yet, somehow, it isn't.

I, on the other hand, live in a concrete bunker with a wire mother for company that I stole from a primatology lab, with rats as my only friends and my only food. (It's a long story. Sartre wasn't exactly the highest-paying client and narwhal wrestling isn't exactly paying out like it did in the Golden Age.) But I'm capable of fessing up to a mistake when I've made one. Why aren't you?

 

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Where did I claim feminists hate sexuality or men aren't allowed to talk about attraction. I was talking about the fine line between male sexuality being viewed as natural or being viewed as oppressive and how that line can be crossed without being noticed or can produce unfair accusations. Is the thread about Janeway being sexy sexist for example? Feminists are not one block of identical beings with a shared consensus. There is a myriad of views and opinions. I do not accept your verdict on the joke. Such is life

But I don't agree there is an error. The verdict that a crude (yet contextual) innuendo based on the premise that a woman is very sexually attractive is sexist is simply flawed. It might be vulgar, possibly not funny, immature, whatever but that is not sexism.

I'm willing to concede that I might be in a minority here but I find that fact equally baffling.

A few pages back I posted an innuendo about a young boy coming to give my passage a thorough seeing to. No protest?

Hang in there dude. I posted about 15 storeys high about seventeen pages back if you didn't catch it

 

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Hux. Let me ask you this. Would it be okay to make this comment in an office environment about a co-worker? If it's not okay, do you think it should be okay?

 

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A female colleague = no, of course not

About a celebrity to a female colleague = yes, quite happily

If Jeri Ryan was a regular on this board (wouldn't that be nice) then it would certainly cross a line but quite honestly, in this context, I see no real distinction between Ryan or Seven. They both simply represent a very attractive fantasy

Are we honestly saying that expressions of attraction (even crude ones) towards Ryan/Seven are beyond the pale

Really

She's dressed in a skin tight cat suit for goodness sake. Her sexiness is a given

 

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[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kxYApOPnW8[/yt]

I'm watching the MTV Movie awards.

Kevin Hart just won the Comedic Genius Award.

Part of the clipshow proving that he is a comedic genius is a clip from one of his movies where he says "They call me black hammer because "Boom" is the sound my dick makes when it hits the ground"



Yup.

Let's kill everyone under thirty and start over again.

 

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Because people here have met Jeri at conventions and talked to her, there is an illusion of intimacy which holds water and awards her protection from her celebrity status as a public figure.

But really, it's not 1972 anymore.

If you don't know that what you are about to say at work will get you fired, then you deserve to be fired.

Know your audience.

 

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hux's heteronormativity makes gay baby Jesus cry.

Also, it's weird that some people can't distinguish sexual attraction from making gross comments. I mean, I feel sexual attraction just fine--and how!--but I manage to refrain from being all "yo babe wanna hop on my weiner?" with every "H2D" human female I encounter. Weird.

I'll just point out that guys claiming they can't control their biological urges lends credence to the mythical feminist's "all men are rapists" motto. Which is it, fellas? Do we need to start pumping you full of antiandrogens so you won't be a threat to women everywhere? Or can you fucking control yourselves?

It's quite sad that a thread originally about Jeri Ryan facing a hostile work environment has itself produced an environment that Ryan herself would no doubt find appalling. Great work, high fives all around, point missed by, I dunno, a parsec or two. hux and his BFF get an extra cookie for this one.

 

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Is this a dig at crippled people? As a cripple, I certainly hope it isn't.

 

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And this is what's wrong. Even ignoring the sexism apparent, it's still horribly wrong to say disgusting stuff like that about anyone.

And what about the effects that comments like this have on the comfort level on women on this forum? It's not just the effect on Ms. Ryan that's in question.

Expressions of attraction? Hell no. It is perfectly fine to express your attraction to anyone. I happen to find Jewel Staite, Nikki Clyne, Nicole DeBoer, and Jennifer Lawrence all attractive. Hell, it's even permissible to compliment a fellow poster as long as it's done tastefully - and I have done so on occasion.

Being crude? Yes. This is always wrong.

Which doesn't excuse the comments, FFS. There are ways to express attraction without sounding like one is immature even for a 13-year-old.

Given the typos apparent in hux's posts an the fact that their location is Aberdeen, I think we can take it on faith that they meant "crisps".

 

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Random list of people I am attracted to...

Smurfette.

Queen Victoria.

Nathan Fillion.

Any one driving a Maserati Ghibli.

Jessica Williams.

Megatron.

 

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I WILL FIGHT YOU

 

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We can divide him up down the middle.

Left and right, or top and bottom?

 

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I appreciate the comment, but since he seems to think himself adept at providing defense to his own remarks, I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak. Thanks though.

 

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What sort of moron defends a typo?

"It was a Freudian typo, obviously what my subconscious wanted to say, and snuck it out through my finger tips when I wasn't paying complete attention."

That's the sort of dimwitted #### who finds the image of Jesus ont he front of a cheese fried toastie, and decides that this is communication from the creator of the universe.

Crisps = Potato chips.