It's all gone.....

[RandyS]

No sadder than this: http://gndnpodcast.com/images/shuttle2.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XNPD380IpBQ/SPJfSzCjn1I/AAAAAAAACjE/K66tO-XfPKE/s1600-h/P77_31_galileo.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XNPD380IpBQ/SPJfS6IsQCI/AAAAAAAACjM/G7seiiju98w/s1600-h/P77_32_galileo.jpg

Considering that TOS ended forty years ago, how old are these pictures?

They're pretty old, dating from some time in the 1970s, I think.

There were some pictures of what was supposed to be a mostly-restored Galileo on display at a convention which made the rounds a few years ago. You can see a couple of shots at the bottom of this page.

See also here, here and here.

Edit:

This is kind of interesting, too.

Another great Star Trek website I knew nothing about.

Thanks.

 

[trevanian]

not trek trash, but incredibly sad nonetheless. One of the best miniatures built for any film, and a terrible fate. http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/spacestation.html

 

[RandyS]

not trek trash, but incredibly sad nonetheless. One of the best miniatures built for any film, and a terrible fate. http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/spacestation.html

I'm surprised that wasn't given to the Smithsonian like the TOS Enterprise was.

 

[M'Sharak]

not trek trash, but incredibly sad nonetheless. One of the best miniatures built for any film, and a terrible fate. http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/spacestation.html

I'm surprised that wasn't given to the Smithsonian like the TOS Enterprise was.

I had some difficulty navigating that site to see whether there was a story to go with the pictures, but some digging turned up this, in the Google cache of a page from another site:

There's these pics of the original Space Station Miniature that someone found dumped in a field.

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/h...cestation.html

Here's the quote that came with this

"What happened to the models and props used in 2001?"

[name removed] writes;
Frederick Ordway (technical/scientific advisor to Kubrick) said that almost all of the props were destroyed. He said that, at one time, there was a plan to donate all of it to the Smithsonian, but that Stanley felt uncomfortable about it because he felt that it may destroy the illusion of the film for people.

Then Ordway said that a high school (Borehamwood?) was supposed to get all of the artifacts from the film. This never happened and the school was upset about it. Ordway said that he believes almost all of the artifacts have been destroyed and he hinted that they were destroyed when MGM closed their Borehamwood facility in the 1970's.


2001 Space Station
Trevor Parsons [the taker of those photos] writes:

I was at college in Stevenage (about 15 miles away from St Albans in the early 1970's). Our studio, we were studying graphic art, faced the entrance to the local corporation dump. One afternoon in 1974 a truck turned up after the dump was closed & left some crates in the entrance way. They contained 2 of the models used in 2001, the space wheel & one of the pods. Of course they may not have been the only ones but I believe they were genuine (the film had been made about 20 miles away at Boreham Wood the old MGM studios). By the time I got there the pod had been taken, the space wheel damaged & taken out its wooden case. I took pictures of it, its surface had been covered with bits of old plastic construction kits to make it look more technical when filmed. I desperately wanted to take it home, but I only had a motor bike & a room 8 feet by 10 so it was not really workable. It was smashed up by kids a few days later.

The link is the same, as is the photographer's name, so I'll have to assume that the above text goes along with those photos.

Edit:

Found the page at the site containing the text and the link to the photos -- go here, and scroll down to Question 51.

 

[Starbreaker]

I remember seeing these a long time ago. Just some leftover stuff.. I know it has some sentimental value to some people or whatever, but I think most of us will not have panic attacks, right?

 

[Orcus]

I remember seeing these a long time ago. Just some leftover stuff.. I know it has some sentimental value to some people or whatever, but I think most of us will not have panic attacks, right?

I agree entirely. Which was what I tried to say a bit earlier but it all looked like it went a bit wrong somewhere along the line...

Yep - it's just leftover stuff as far as I'm concerned too. It had to go in the bin sometime...

 

[DestinyCaptain]

One of those shots that bugs me is the ENT main viewer. There are many fans that would have loved to have that thing in their house acting as the focal point of their media room. Anywho...

 

[Brolan]

Does everyone else know about this besides me?

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/the-fall-of-rome/

*cough* *photoshop* *cough*

 

[Nick Ryder]

What always does strike me is that how callously Hollywood will simply trash expensive to build sets and ship all the stuff to the landfills.... when they're Governor is going after big screen manufactures, car companies and everyone else telling them "go green or get the fuck out!" when Hollywood can do this constantly. Like none of that stuff could be recycled or sold to some other production companies for reuse or CAREFULLY dismantled and reused. I mean really... everyone's bitching about lumber costs, why not just save some of the larger pieces of "Scrap" for reuse? And I'm really sure those fiberglass parts aren't going to decompose like plywood would.

I mean, sentimentality aside, its a tremendous waste of resources in a state where they make a big hairy deal out of saving a few pennies worth of water or a couple of bucks a year in electricity usage, but will willingly LANDFILL all this "waste" from movie and tv sets. Especially if there IS a true demand for those pieces. How many other smaller or even other large production companies would have LOVED to have some of that "Waste"? Would have saved some time and other resources. Sure "storage is expensive" but y'know what... there's probably millions of square footage of abandoned warehouse space and such thanks to the foreclosure "crisis", that they could buy old warehouses, not even worry about electricity and just store everything they produce in there. If someone wants to something, instead of wasting materials AND MONEY on building stuff new, just go to the "store" and pick it up.

CBS/Paramount seriously needs to die. And Moonvies is the Anti-Christ.

 

[Anji]

Let's hope there was a greedy Paramount employee who just happened to bring his really BIG pickup truck to work that day.

I'm keeping an eye on E-Bay. I can't believe all of that made it to the trash.

 

[Nardpuncher]

I remember seeing these a long time ago. Just some leftover stuff.. I know it has some sentimental value to some people or whatever, but I think most of us will not have panic attacks, right?

I agree entirely. Which was what I tried to say a bit earlier but it all looked like it went a bit wrong somewhere along the line...

Yep - it's just leftover stuff as far as I'm concerned too. It had to go in the bin sometime...

I agreed with everything you said in your first post. But you lost me when you said "Get over it," because that made you sound like a teenaged girl. Much too overused.

 

[DestinyCaptain]

Does everyone else know about this besides me?

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/the-fall-of-rome/

*cough* *photoshop* *cough*

These sets were photoshop pics? Is that what you mean?

 

[Brolan]

Does everyone else know about this besides me?

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/the-fall-of-rome/

*cough* *photoshop* *cough*

These sets were photoshop pics? Is that what you mean?

Some of the destroyed sets look like a Photoshop constructs. Particularly the last one where the sun light for the picture doesn't seem to be coming from the same direction on all the broken pieces. And some shadows appear to be missing.

 

[DestinyCaptain]

*cough* *photoshop* *cough*

These sets were photoshop pics? Is that what you mean?

Some of the destroyed sets look like a Photoshop constructs. Particularly the last one where the sun light for the picture doesn't seem to be coming from the same direction on all the broken pieces. And some shadows appear to be missing.

So Eaves was lying? Why would anyone come to this conclusion. Has he done it before? Has he not been straight with the fans?

 

[Guardian Bob]

Day ruined :/

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Where were all the loyal Trekkies who would throw themselves in front of the bulldozer?!?

What always does strike me is that how callously Hollywood will simply trash expensive to build sets and ship all the stuff to the landfills....

There's an organization that's trying to put a stop to all that: The Environmental Media Association. (I work with them, they're cool folks.)

As for the sets, they can be rebuilt if anyone ever wants em.