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Only four of those are from TNG, the rest is from the other shows.
Oh oops I just noticed that, oopsie on my part but I like the ones they left hanging. The Schisms aliens would have been great for a multi season thread.
I read the comics and novels and watch video game walk throughs and fan made shows/movies on Youtube...everything gets picked up again eventually in my Star Trek.
Don't worry, the rest was still interesting!
With the Schisms aliens...I actually do wonder whether they were supposed to be recurring, or at least wehther they were supposed to be revisited, since it looked like there was a lot of thought put into their make-up and to make them a mysterious threat.
A lot of series writing isn't about "supposed to." It's about trying things out and keeping your options open. You don't know in advance what's going to happen, especially in an episodic series, so you set up possibilities, put out feelers, create hooks that might be worth following up on or might not.
I know. I just thought the Schisms aliens were particularly memorable, as if they were created with more in mind.
Yes, of course, but the point is that "more in mind" doesn't mean they were "supposed to" be brought back, just that they were a story seed that might be followed up on if someone came up with a good idea for it later on. "Supposed to" is overstating it, because they didn't plan in advance to that extent. They opened the door to the possibility. That doesn't mean there was a specific plan.
For that matter, I didn't find the "Schisms" aliens all that memorable. It's a subjective thing. They seemed like a pretty ordinary alien-of-the-week to me, no more distinctive than, say, the Antedeans or the Sheliak.
Yes, I understand that, how about you stop treating everybody except yourself as unintelligent?
See my point above. Of course it's subjective.
I'm not, because I expect intelligent people to be open to clarification and discussion rather than seeing it as some kind of attack on their pride.
I always thought the Sheliak were the evolved Ba'ul from Discovery that had left Kaminar
I tried to watch a couple of episode and I was simply embarrassed.
"We invented the most sophisticated AI on the planet and a chemical compound that could make any substance indestructible, potentially saving the lives of millions of people. Let's use these wonderful inventions to help a midwestern single mom not lose her farm to speculators and prevent the smuggling of jewels during a beauty contest! "
All these entire 2 years?
I'll be honest with you, your replies can often come across as infuriatingly smug and condescending. Given how 'Schisms' ended it's understandable that Orphalesion would have interpreted it the way he did. Your response to him didn't encourage discussion at all and in fact did the opposite because you shut him down and invalidated his speculation.
As a writer, you would think you would be aware that there is no tone on the Internet. Maybe you need to assess how your writing style might be coming across to others on this board because quite frankly it can be incredibly off putting.
You would probably like the Star Trek: Titan novel 'Sight Unseen'. It deals with the return of the Schism aliens in great detail.
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All these entire 2 years?
No, I just meant that the aliens we saw that were known as the Sheliak in TNG were actually the Ba'ul only a lot older and maybe a little wiser.
I don't read many Star Trek novels so what was that return story about, what were those aliens doing fiddling with people and taking them apart?
It's been a while since i read it but the basic gist is: The Titan is requested by an alien species known as the Dinac to search for a vessel of theirs that has gone missing. In addition a starfleet ship, the USS Whitetree has also disappeared and Titan is tasked by Starfleet to investigate. The Titan finds the Dinac ship but with the crew missing. Shortly after members of the crew report sleep disturbances and medical scans show signs of invasive surgery. Riker and Troi realise that the schism aliens are behind the abductions and attempts to block the aliens results in the ship being boarded by weird little tentacled drones which hijack the replicator systems to make more copies of themselves. The crew succeed in repelling the drones but are then boarded by the schisms aliens (eventually identified as the Solanae) who abduct members of the crew such as Troi and Titan's civilian complement including Tuvok's wife and a number of children.
The crew detect solanae lifesigns coming from and asteroid a few light years away and go to investigate. When they arrive they explain they are a rebel faction who were against the original experiments conducted on the Enterprise crew and are currently on the run from the main solanae faction. The rebels tell Riker that the Solanae are from another dimension that is experiencing entropic decay and will collapse in 300 years. The Solanae desire to take over our dimension and the experiments were to ascertain data that would aid the Solanae in both wiping out the species native to our dimension and also adapt themselves as they cannot survive for long outside of their home realms. The Rebel faction have found a way to live in our dimension and only want to find a new home and co-exist peacefully. They agree to help the crew of the Titan and provide data that will allow the ship to enter the alien realm.
In the meantime, Deanna and the abducted crew and civilians are being held on a Solanae installation. Troi finds the surving crew of the Whitetree, one of whom tells Deanna that the Whitetree's Captain and senior staff are all dead. Eventually, Titan shows up at the installation but is at a disadvantage as the ships weapons won't work in the Alien realm. They also discover that the aliens have the Whitetree and have it's warp core exposed and running hot. A team from the Titan investigates and discovers that the ship has basically been turned into a giant biogenic bomb that will be used to destroy the Dinac. Riker ends up ramming Titan into the solanae base allowing a rescue team to board the installation and rescue the prisoners. The Whitetree is destroyed but a crew member dies in the process and the resulting explosion severely damages the Solanae base and allows the Titan to make a getaway.
As the Titan is retreating, the ship is attacked by Solanae fighter craft and Tuvok detects two Solanae warships incoming. Unable to use weapons, Tuvok uses the transporters to beam the Solanae pilots off of their ships and hold them in the transporter buffer. Riker orders Tuvok to release one of the Solanae so he can attempt a diplomatic solution. The aliens rematerialise on the bridge and Riker attempts to talk to the aliens about the possibility of a negotiated peace, even offering Federation assistance. The Solanae refuse outright and basically tell Riker that they won't stop and that the Federation won;t be prepared for what they have planned next. Riker orders the the aliens returned to their ships and the remaining vessels freed from the transporter buffer. Tuvok beams the solanae onto the the two approaching warships and also beams torpedoes into the alien vessels engines which detonate and disable the ships, allowing the Titan to escape unharmed. Back in the alpha quadrant the Rebel solanae ally themselves with Dinac and Riker hopes with the rebel's assistance, they'll be ready for the Solanae when they return.
The crew detect solanae lifesigns coming from and asteroid a few light years away and go to investigate. When they arrive they explain they are a rebel faction who were against the original experiments conducted on the Enterprise crew and are currently on the run from the main solanae faction. The rebels tell Riker that the Solanae are from another dimension that is experiencing entropic decay and will collapse in 300 years. The Solanae desire to take over our dimension and the experiments were to ascertain data that would aid the Solanae in both wiping out the species native to our dimension and also adapt themselves as they cannot survive for long outside of their home realms. The Rebel faction have found a way to live in our dimension and only want to find a new home and co-exist peacefully. They agree to help the crew of the Titan and provide data that will allow the ship to enter the alien realm.
In the meantime, Deanna and the abducted crew and civilians are being held on a Solanae installation. Troi finds the surving crew of the Whitetree, one of whom tells Deanna that the Whitetree's Captain and senior staff are all dead. Eventually, Titan shows up at the installation but is at a disadvantage as the ships weapons won't work in the Alien realm. They also discover that the aliens have the Whitetree and have it's warp core exposed and running hot. A team from the Titan investigates and discovers that the ship has basically been turned into a giant biogenic bomb that will be used to destroy the Dinac. Riker ends up ramming Titan into the solanae base allowing a rescue team to board the installation and rescue the prisoners. The Whitetree is destroyed but a crew member dies in the process and the resulting explosion severely damages the Solanae base and allows the Titan to make a getaway.
As the Titan is retreating, the ship is attacked by Solanae fighter craft and Tuvok detects two Solanae warships incoming. Unable to use weapons, Tuvok uses the transporters to beam the Solanae pilots off of their ships and hold them in the transporter buffer. Riker orders Tuvok to release one of the Solanae so he can attempt a diplomatic solution. The aliens rematerialise on the bridge and Riker attempts to talk to the aliens about the possibility of a negotiated peace, even offering Federation assistance. The Solanae refuse outright and basically tell Riker that they won't stop and that the Federation won;t be prepared for what they have planned next. Riker orders the the aliens returned to their ships and the remaining vessels freed from the transporter buffer. Tuvok beams the solanae onto the the two approaching warships and also beams torpedoes into the alien vessels engines which detonate and disable the ships, allowing the Titan to escape unharmed. Back in the alpha quadrant the Rebel solanae ally themselves with Dinac and Riker hopes with the rebel's assistance, they'll be ready for the Solanae when they return.
I actually watched the first half of Encounter at Farpoint on Netflix the other day. Up to when Riker joins Picard on the battle bridge and watched a hoopy little ‘story so far’ recap.
When I have a moment I intend to watch the other half. It’s been 15 years or so since I watched any TNG and I thought it really stood up well. Sure, it doesn’t look like 2021 TV. It looks like a 1987 TV Movie, but that’s what it is, so that’s alright.
There’s an earnest feeling from the episode. It’s obvious at least for the first episode that everyone is pulling together and doing the best they can to make great Star Trek.
When I have a moment I intend to watch the other half. It’s been 15 years or so since I watched any TNG and I thought it really stood up well. Sure, it doesn’t look like 2021 TV. It looks like a 1987 TV Movie, but that’s what it is, so that’s alright.
There’s an earnest feeling from the episode. It’s obvious at least for the first episode that everyone is pulling together and doing the best they can to make great Star Trek.
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