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I think he meant "blu-ray"
Quantum Leap is one of my favourite long term shows.... I love it all except for Evil Leapers really. I would have been happier if they had just cut all that out.
I've just started season 3 of TNG, 1 and 2 were painful to watch, a few good episodes but oh boy it was painful.
But TNG had so many Klingon episodes, did they run out of ideas?
I've just started season 3 of TNG, 1 and 2 were painful to watch, a few good episodes but oh boy it was painful.
But TNG had so many Klingon episodes, did they run out of ideas?
I dunno, I kind of liked the idea of having a recurring antagonist, a countering force trying to break what Sam was trying to fix. Maybe the execution was flawed, but the idea had potential.
No. They had a Klingon regular, they had Ron Moore on staff, and the Klingon episodes were popular, so they kept doing them.
They put a lot of thought into the Klingons, more than they did for the Vulcans even. As far as I know, the Klingon language is either the only fictional language that has an official grammar and a few people speaking it fluently or by far the most successful of them. I don't even know if there is another language like this.
Tolkien's Elvish, for one.
There are plenty of fictional languages out there, though few have the popularity of Elvish or Klingonese.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Conlang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_constructed_languages#Languages_used_in_fiction
I submit that Homeward, Threshold, Dear Doctor, Profit and Lace, Author Author, Into Darkness and a whole bunch of Discovery silliness and Picard depression are still to come...
But then Picard has otherworldly robot tentacle monster...... That's got to make someone in the fandom happy. I wonder if he was the one that upgraded the probe in Discovery
I always found all the seasons of TNG to be fantastic, same with DS9 and TOS. But it starts to get consistently good, and fun, at the beginning of season two. Season one is just warming up, character introduction, etc. I don't think it is supposed to be this grand spectacle, but rather, the building block.
With TNG there's character growth all over the place... they're all different from what they were at the beginning of the series.
Agreed. For instance, Riker's transformation from gung ho, "my only ambition is to captain my own ship" to "eh, I'm comfortable as first officer on the Enterprise" is almost jarring. They didn't really think that one through. Of course, I don't think anyone was thinking through much. I think they were just making it up as they went.
But that goes back to my comment about how on any long-running show, that first season can be weird when compared to later seasons because they were still figuring it out.
They seemed like smug jerks in The Neutral Zone episode
That's an understatement
I was trying to be as polite as I could..... That whole episode just shits me off every time.
Also the very casual attitude to death. "They were dead already what more could happen to them?" yes Jean Luc
Just on that a whole metaphysical discussion could be had over their revival. If they were indeed truly dead, proper dead reviving them not only restored them to health and life but their souls never departed, which makes me think if people are dead in the future they could in theory be revived if we had the technology they have on the Enterprise, but they retain their life force or soul. It never leaves the body. OK that's what the episode made me think sorry.
Yeah, that was Picard at his absolute worst (see also: Homeward).
I'd say that's all supernatural nonsense, but this IS Star Trek, where we see people moving their consciousnesses all the time (Kirk in Turnabout Intruder, Spock in Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock, Surak in the Enterprise season four Vulcan 3 parter, Ira Graves in The Schizoid Man, Chackotay in Cathexis, apparently most Vulcans when they die, maybe Picard in the season 1 Picard finale [opinions vary])...
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It's Star Trek people are never truly dead unless the plot says so. Transporters can magically de-age you and restore you to life so anything else is super duper easy. Yeah Homeward was a stinker too
I am very fond of seasons 1 and 2 and think they are much better than their reputation generally holds them out to be. Yes, there are plenty of clunkers. But those seasons are when TNG felt like a real sci-fi show to me.
When Piller came on board and shifted the focus from sci-fi stories to character stories, I think that hurt the show. Sure, there are many absolute classic episodes sprinkled throughout seasons 3 -7, including a lot of good sci-fi. And there's no question that, from a production standpoint, the quality of the show got orders of magnitude better. But I prefer the tone of the first two seasons. Then again, TMP is my favorite Trek movie, so I'm definitely not in the majority with my opinions.
When Piller came on board and shifted the focus from sci-fi stories to character stories, I think that hurt the show. Sure, there are many absolute classic episodes sprinkled throughout seasons 3 -7, including a lot of good sci-fi. And there's no question that, from a production standpoint, the quality of the show got orders of magnitude better. But I prefer the tone of the first two seasons. Then again, TMP is my favorite Trek movie, so I'm definitely not in the majority with my opinions.
Ugh, I can't stand The Battle. It's hard for me to even make it through it. To me, it feels painfully slow in its pacing. I can't really put my finger on it, but I just can't stand it.
Hey, to this day, I still like Knight Rider and I think it actually holds up pretty well after all these years. Sure, they started to run out of steam in season 4, but I think they did a lot of quality work. In fact, I can see some foreshadowing of Data in KITT.
Opposite for me Knight Rider had the odd good episode but on the whole I couldn't stand it watching it again, just it didn't grab me at all.
Hey transporters as medicine.
Just redo yourself from an earlier pattern if sick or near death. Boom solved, same I'd imagine for old age, keep a younger pattern of you on file boom insta life.
Hey transporters as medicine.
Just redo yourself from an earlier pattern if sick or near death. Boom solved, same I'd imagine for old age, keep a younger pattern of you on file boom insta life.
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