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Is there a way to try and "learn to love" Nemesis?

And, why, exactly, was the director someone unfamiliar with the universe? I mean, he referred to Geordi as an alien, for god's sake!
He was owed a directing gig after he helped bail out Paramount during the editing of Mission: Impossible 2 and Lara Croft: Tomb Raider.

Dang is that really why he got the job? Thats depressing that they put so little thought as to who should be the director. :( They may as well just have pulled a name out of a hat.
 
And, why, exactly, was the director someone unfamiliar with the universe? I mean, he referred to Geordi as an alien, for god's sake!
He was owed a directing gig after he helped bail out Paramount during the editing of Mission: Impossible 2 and Lara Croft: Tomb Raider.

Dang is that really why he got the job? Thats depressing that they put so little thought as to who should be the director. :( They may as well just have pulled a name out of a hat.

That's essentially what they did. It was NOT logical.... :vulcan:
 
I suppose one can appreciate the lost potential for the action plot after seeing the new Trek movie.

Enough of the supervillain with the super weapon, like someone above me said.

Unfortunately, no. :(
 
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And, why, exactly, was the director someone unfamiliar with the universe? I mean, he referred to Geordi as an alien, for god's sake!
He was owed a directing gig after he helped bail out Paramount during the editing of Mission: Impossible 2 and Lara Croft: Tomb Raider.

Dang is that really why he got the job? Thats depressing that they put so little thought as to who should be the director. :( They may as well just have pulled a name out of a hat.
I'd be interested to know how the process of hooking him up with Nemesis actually went about; did he specifically lobby for it (his disinterest with Trek in general would suggest otherwise) or did Paramount simply foist him upon Berman?
 
I'd be interested to know how the process of hooking him up with Nemesis actually went about; did he specifically lobby for it (his disinterest with Trek in general would suggest otherwise) or did Paramount simply foist him upon Berman?

Yea I dont remember seeing or reading any interviews leading up to Nemesis saying why Baird was chosen. Leads me to believe that you are right and Paramount may have forced the Trek team to use him. Because I dont recall the producers saying they choose Baird for such and such reasons.

Which leads me to another question. Has Baird directed any movies since Nemesis??

(Edit: I just looked on IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000829/#director and indeed he has NOT directed any movies since Nemesis. Seems his directing days may be over?)
 
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Hopefully Baird realized after the failure of Nemesis that he wasn't really cut out to be a director. He's still an outstanding editor, of course; I thought he did a great job on Casino Royale.
 
It's a shame Trek had to suffer for him to realize that, though. I bet Frakes would have at least delivered a film with a little more TNG heart.
 
Yeah, Frakes would've been better suited to add good humour, if not the outright humour of that derivative film that was the recent Trek movie (bald bad guy with superweapon ship that gets rammed and then destroyed by superweapon-related technology).
 
It's a shame Trek had to suffer for him to realize that, though. I bet Frakes would have at least delivered a film with a little more TNG heart.

I would have to agree as well - at least he would understan the characters and plot because he's familiar with the universe.
 
I've been thinking about how much I want to like this, but there's just too much that makes me cringe. I went back and watched it again...

How many times have you seen it, more than once? You probably like it then, you can't WANT to like something, you either do or don't.

I walked out of the cinema after seeing it thought "yeah, not great but I liked that" and honestly did not think that much more about it.
 
a way to try and "learn to love" Nemesis? - aspects of it

I like that the Romulans were there and the design of the Capital,
the Romulan Star Empire on the big screen

In watching Nemesis SCE DVD the special feature Romulan Design really shows how much Romulus capitol city in the daytime looks like a different film that came out between Insurrection and Nemesis: a cross between Naboo & Coruscant the Galactic Republic's capitol planet in the daytime from Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999).
see Naboo
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p117/urbanitect/blog/TheedNaboo.jpg
Romulus surface
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/planet_mutations/romulus-surface-unification.jpg
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/i.../romulus-surface-interarmaenimsilentleges.jpg

SW Coruscant Senate
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwars/6-01-2004.jpg
and Romulan Capitol
http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/romulans/romulan_capitol.jpg
And the parallels between Romulan Star Empire capital and SW Galactic Republic's capital planet are really similar between these two films from two different franchises.
Enough about ST/SW comparisons. This post is NOT MEANT to be a ST vs. SW thread. Please do not turn it into one. I'm only pointing out the similarities.

Romulus during the flyover as a 3D model created is really amazing the intricacy of the model and the additional animation added.

Alan S. Kaye the lead set designer on Nemesis and designed the Romulus Senate building did a beautiful job on creating it.

I love these sets!
Try turning off the sound and just watch scenes from the film to admire the sets and the fictional world created.
 
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