Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

[Firebird]

In a possible WWII, the destruction will be much worse, not even the US will get away and there will be no one who can rebuild what was destroyed and some areas of the world will be uninhabitable for centuries. It will be the Stone Age once again and no Vulcans either to help us.


Yes, but those survivers will live in the Stone Age again. There will be no "quick recovery".

You keep saying this like it's absolute fact when this is just pure supposition to maintain your argument. Where's your proof?

 

[James Cole]

A lot of this thread consists of "I got my slice of the pie, so, quick, pull up the ladder"

There are three things you can do, in descending order:
1. Bring in a new audience.
2. If that doesn't work, bring back the old audience you lost.
3. If that doesn't work, then try to keep the audience you have.

The key flaw in Kurtzman's model was trying to slice and dice the existing fanbase while attempting to bring in new people and spending at very high budget models behind a paywall.

Another problem is the glut of Star Trek shows that was introduced in such a short amount of time. To someone outside of all this, if they look at a list, it's going to be like white noise.

Star Trek: Discovery, Star Trek: Lower Decks, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Star Trek: Section 31, Star Trek: Short Treks, Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

^^^ I just listed all the new series in alphabetical order. Look at the way that all looks and be honest for a moment. It all blurs together if you either don't know anything about any of this or haven't followed Star Trek since the '90s and early-2000s.

That looks so fucking hectic.

Friends have tried to get me into anime. I'd look at episode lists in the mid to high hundreds and just go, that's too much. Then they would say but if you end up liking it, there's a massive back catalog to enjoy. And my reply would be... then I'd be missing out on everything else that's being produced recently. Short of a massive content production drop (well beyond anything caused by Covid and the strikes), I'd have little incentive to go down so many rabbit holes that could eat up entertainment time for years.

Let's say you know someone you think would like the Star Trek franchise and you'd like to gradually introduce it to them. You'd need to curate the "best of" to show all the good stuff (which is of course increasingly subjective post-ENT...).

Someone with no prior connection to the franchise just looking at that list would likely time-out on it and pass.

And they have to put this show on something easily accessible that most people already have, so they get a chance to see it! That's how you grow the audience. Then all those other shows that disappeared into the background won't matter. They'll only care about the one that's right in front of them.

What's kinda crazy is that since 2017 people have been trying to reverse engineer what DISCOVERY likely should have been. Set 75 years give or take after the TNG/DS9/VGR era, with some connections to pre-existing continuity, but nothing prohibitive.

 

[kkt]

Haha. I forgot he may still me out there somewhere with his shuttle craft. He would be like almost 100 now...

Unless he found some time warp effect to take him a little farther into the future.

 

[The Wormhole]

the back and forth ‘No’ and ‘Yes’ childishness says far more about the person saying it than how much or how little they like a show.

No

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