Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

[fireproof78]

Yes, but hey were good stories played by good actors and it wasn't all about doom-and-gloom. There were lighter stories between them and also some humor even in more serious stories.

And I see that in present day stories. It hadn't changed that much.

 

[Campe]

Some people's favorite food is another person's trash.

I would think the same goes for Star Trek series.

 

[fireproof78]

This is part of the problem. If this is all five-star to you, where is there for new iterations to go? You’ve set an impossible standard that will never be met.

This. The old days are on such an extreme pedestal because they are not viewed as they are but as they made us feel.

 

[Starflight]

This has become my tedious hobby-horse topic, but I still don't get how DS9 gets grouped in with TOS/TNG/Voyager as "good old optimistic Trek". From season 5 onward it's way closer to Discovery S1 than TOS/TNG in tone, intent, and structure. Plus, both DS9 and Disco have the same posturing "stand aside, fools, and watch us mature writers bring your pitiful kiddy franchise up to scratch" attitude toward previous Star Trek shows.

Simultaneously I don't get how SNW could reasonably be excluded from the "classic optimistic Trek" mold, and I'm saying that as someone who has a lot of increasingly-strong criticisms of the show.

It makes me wonder what would have happened if Discovery had released in the mid-90s - would everyone have been like "oh yeah, what a breath of fresh air"? Or if season 5 - 7 of DS9 released today, would people be like "yet more tedious Kurtzman Trek grimdark slop"? Or if SNW was made in 1995, would it have been "peak Trek"? I think the timing of these shows does a hell of a lot to affect their perception.

 

[Danja]

This. The old days are on such an extreme pedestal because they are not viewed as they are but as they made us feel.

A lot of Star Wars fans hate the sequel and prequel trilogies because they don't offer the same spiritual experience as A New Hope.

It makes me wonder what would have happened if Discovery had released in the mid-90s - would everyone have been like "oh yeah, what a breath of fresh air"?

I took that as a challenge.

I created an AI asking "What if Star Trek: Discovery was released in the 90s?" (I noticed they dialed back the chrome considerably).

 

[Starflight]

I created an AI asking "What if Star Trek: Discovery was released in the 90s?" (I noticed they dialed back the chrome considerably).

Aha, I love the Babylon 5 style set!

 

[The Wormhole]

What if Disco were a 90s show?

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[Firebird]

Some people's favorite food is another person's trash.

I would think the same goes for Star Trek series.

But I think we can all agree Section 31 belongs in the scrap heap.

 

[Tallguy]

"James Kirk is not an interesting character. I just like William Shatner."

I want to be clear that this is what I hear when someone tells me that nobody else can play Kirk. This is not my opinion at all.