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Is episode "Past Tense" an omen of a Donald Trump presidency?

Is episode "Past Tense" an omen of a Donald Trump presidency?


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Nah, I think it's a good opportunity to discuss and educate.

I didn't realize that there was a designated area to discuss politics on this site. It's fine where it is now.

However, as a poster mentioned above, to tie this to Trump is being narrow and a bit blind.
 
Historically problems within the country are blamed on the president at the time. Trump has promised to make america great again but I'm not seeing a clear picture of what he has in mind. He has more radical ideas than the average politician. That in connection with DS9 episode "Past Tense" ,where they say sanctuary districts were put in every major city by the early 2020's, made me think of the idea of the topic. The early 2020's is when Trump's first term ends.

Star Trek episodes are sometimes political. Political is beside the point. The thread is about the accuracy of a DS9 episode. That makes it a star trek thread.
 
I could see it in Seattle right now. And that's in a blue state. Considering the problem of homelessness and how most in power have a hard time dealing with the homeless, I could see this happening no matter the administration in Washington, DC. The public not having problems could breathe a sigh of relief that people begging aren't on their streetcorners anymore. They wouldn't have to see... until the Bell Riots.
 
I'm not American and I have zero interest in Trump or American politics...disclaimer inserted.
What I find interesting is the idea of recent reports have said that the city featured in the episode,San Francisco,is in reality becoming a divided city unaffordable to many of it's non-IT sector workers.Is there a more acute homelessness crisis in SF these days?
 
I could see it in Seattle right now. And that's in a blue state. Considering the problem of homelessness and how most in power have a hard time dealing with the homeless, I could see this happening no matter the administration in Washington, DC. The public not having problems could breathe a sigh of relief that people begging aren't on their streetcorners anymore. They wouldn't have to see... until the Bell Riots.

Homelessness isn't even a hard problem to solve, politicians are just gutless and their constituents range from apathetic to malicious on the subject.

Got homeless people? Literally give them houses. It works.
 
Homelessness isn't even a hard problem to solve, politicians are just gutless and their constituents range from apathetic to malicious on the subject.

Got homeless people? Literally give them houses. It works.
Politicians here... they actually tried something called "safe lots" for those who live in RVs, but for some reason, it didn't work.
 
No.

Sovereign debt is absolutely nothing like household debt. There is no magic limit where a country is crushed under its debt load. National debt can be expanded virtually limitlessly, depending upon circumstances.
Nope. I never said household debt was the same as national debt. In future, read my posts before you barrel role for that reply button. A bank, any bank cannot keep issuing itself lines of credit ad infintum nor can limitless consumption occur in a world of finite resources. The state has no mysterious pixie dust property that makes it exempt from this despite economic occultists who thrive on the current gravy train informing us the opposite.
 
Okay, then how about the "non-homeless?" Do we get a house too, equal protection under the law and all?

I have a decent job and live in a small apartment, I would love to be simply given a house.
Me too. I'd love to be able to upscale from an apartment to a house. All I have to do is quit working? Sign me up!

I'm also curious how local education gets funded once property tax revenue dries up due to everyone living in free housing.

Good ole' socialism. A nice fantasy world that will forever remain a fantasy.
 
The unemployment advisors need to stop treating everyone as if they are on the make. They forget unless one is independently wealthy (the 1%) we are ALL one paycheck away from destitution.
I believe Terra Prime is an omen of President Trump, the racists had a field day for the last 8 years and now they have their male White Anglo Saxon Savior back...(or so they believe)
 
The unemployment advisors need to stop treating everyone as if they are on the make. They forget unless one is independently wealthy (the 1%) we are ALL one paycheck away from destitution.
I believe Terra Prime is an omen of President Trump, the racists had a field day for the last 8 years and now they have their male White Anglo Saxon Savior back...(or so they believe)

I agree with your main point, but let's not go crazy here. If you earn an decent income and a single missed paycheque will render you destitute then you really need to reexamine your spending habits.
 
No real idea. Trump as well as Bernie Sanders and possibly Hillary Clinton could be more inclined to want to just try to hide the bad conditions but I think and hope they're more likely to control themselves from doing so. Trump is probably more likely to either actually help (although certainly not as much and as expensively as some say we should) or admit that neglect is the best that can be done rather than impose coercive restrictions, especially since there already is some significant bipartisan opposition to mass incarceration.

I don't recall that we got much of a sense of what life was like for most Americans in that scenario, but the impression is that there's simply a massive job shortage, perhaps due to automation or a generally depressed economy. The wealthy get to maintain their luxuries, while the poor see their options slashed and slashed and slashed until they have no choice but to be ghettoized into Sanctuaries--no doubt an attempt to streamline social welfare programs to make them more efficient, but which conveniently keeps the "human rubbish" away from the eyes of "decent folk."

I believe much of the U.S. population has held and even today claims they are middle class and politics focused on claiming to help the middle class although that may have decreased with Sanders and Warren insisting that the interests and actions of the wealthy are opposed to everyone else. It makes sense the middle class would not want to give a lot of help to the poor or very poor unless they really think of themselves as poor or only barely middle class or they come to really resent the rich.
 
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the racists
While the idea you propose is a popular one among a portion of the liberal population, I think it's edges toward fantasy. It's based on the flawed idea that opposition toward President Obama is based primarily on his half-African ancestry, and not primarily on his political philosophy and executive policies.

Are the 29% of Hispanics who supported Trump "racist?" And what about the people who voted twice for Obama, who in the last election supported Trump, are they also "racist?"

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To the OP, in a hypothetical scenario, Trump's economic and immigration policies result in a general increase in the American economy and personal economy prosperity. With a increase in local tax income (and the typical belief on politicians that the money will never end) liberal city governments increase spending on social programs leading to the creation of sanctuary districts.

Housing, food, jobs, medical, initially the districts work reasonable well and the idea spreads. Great as long as employment numbers never fluctuate and the move to increased automation never happens.

In the last year of Trump's second term of office a number of factors (domestic and international) drive a slight downturn in the economy, for the most part it's a minor hiccup, but the hiccup results in increase in unemployment and homelessness by tens of thousands.

Fearing a reduction of tourism, business and lifestyle, local governments make their districts all but mandatory for all homeless. Tough anti-vagrancy and anti-panhandling laws passed by city councils give big city mayors the power to have the police congregate "street people" into the districts.

One year later Sisko, Dax and Bashir arrive in San Fransisco.
 
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Not everyone who opposed President Obama is a racist that was not the point I made however the racists came out of the closet and felt free to show their racism. You think it is a coincidence that the KKK endorsed Mr Trump? That neo Nazis were pleased he won, celebrating with Nazi salutes? Trump is flirting with fascism, lets see how much of a mistress she becomes.
 
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I think... that maybe all that happened during the more PC years was that people started being more subtle about racism. But we also had years of economic expansion which made people content. Until the Clinton years, we'd never had that sort of economic expansion and I'd argue that the country was in more of a balance. Politically, we could look across the aisle and see adversaries we could go to lunch with.
Now... we're so angry at each other, we're not really seeing each other anymore...
 
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