Is Amy Unhealthily Obsessed With The Doctor?

[StCoop]

She abandons her finace on the eve of her wedding to go travelling in time and space with a man who has demonstrated to her (twice!) that he can't return her to the exact time she left.

And while some of those home-made dolls of herself and the Doctor were made when she was a child she's still making them as an adult too.

Discuss.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Well, we know she's been through four psychiatrists in dealing with her issues with the Doctor.

It's clear that everyone that knows her is aware of the "raggedy Doctor" of her imagination.

I suspect that the final scenes of "The Eleventh Hour" suggest that the Doctor does, in fact, return to her five minutes after leaving her as a child, only she can't remember this.

I wonder if Moffat could be planning for Amy what Davies intended for Rose and that the EDAs actually did with Sam -- the Doctor has consciously been grooming her for companionship throughout her life.

On the flipside, Amelia clearly had a crappy home life in her youth, so it's not that implausible that she would fixate on something shiny that walked into her life, related to her not as a child but as a person, showed her something really amazing, and showed her that dreams are real. So it's not unreasonable that she would be drawn to him as a part of her life.

Yes, I'm arguing that she has a healthy and an unhealthy obsession with the Doctor.

 

[ITL]

She abandons her finace on the eve of her wedding to go travelling in time and space with a man who has demonstrated to her (twice!) that he can't return her to the exact time she left.

And while some of those home-made dolls of herself and the Doctor were made when she was a child she's still making them as an adult too.

Discuss.

I find it very interesting.

While she obviously fancies The Doctor, her obsession is based mainly on her childhood experience with him. She finally gets the chance to do something that she's been waiting for all these years. The Amy we meet as an adult is who she is partially because of The Doctor. And that's something worth exploring!

 

[Samurai8472]

To have her end up in the looney bin drawing/craving wooden figures of the doctor would be as heartbreaking as Donna's situation.

She almost looked like she was going to break

On the flipside, Amelia clearly had a crappy home life in her youth, so it's not that implausible that she would fixate on something shiny that walked into her life, related to her not as a child but as a person, showed her something really amazing, and showed her that dreams are real. So it's not unreasonable that she would be drawn to him as a part of her life.

The Master- OH he loves playing with earth girls............and a waitress from Sto

 

[wamdue]

yep I am worried about Amys mental health as well, clues are littered though out the episode, first she has written comics, told everyone in the village about him, then she has had Rory dress up as him, has seen four psychiatrists, the dolls at the end are pretty creepy, I dont think its a good idea her being with the Doctor at all.

 

[Chaos Descending]

I suspect that the final scenes of "The Eleventh Hour" suggest that the Doctor does, in fact, return to her five minutes after leaving her as a child, only she can't remember this.

That's nonsense. Adult Amy was clearly having a dream.

 

[davejames]

She might be a bit nutty, but it felt to me like a fairly harmless, loveable kind of nuttiness.

I don't think she's mentally unstable or needs to be locked up or anything. lol

 

[Checkmate]

If anything she just gets lost in her fantasy world. A lot of people do that. She needs these adventures with the Doctor to help her get over it so she can have a healthy adult life, rather than always wishing of what could have been. It's going to be her faerie tale story of finally growing up; something she never really did as a little girl.

 

[DimesDan]

first she has written comics, told everyone in the village about him, then she has had Rory dress up as him, the dolls at the end are pretty creepy

So what's the difference between Amy and say me or you or someone who loves Doctor Who or Star Trek so much that they've written fan fic, told absolutely every single person about their love of the show, either dressed up themselves or a significant other to go to a convention or more intimate acts or made little figures to re-enact scenes from the programme?

I bet everyone here can tick off one, maybe two on that list and maybe even all four (just the two for me) so does that mean we should all go on the room with padded walls? - That's a general observation about "is Amy unhealthily obsessed with the Doctor?" and not just aimed at you Wamdue even though I did quote you, but that's because you summed it up pretty well why she should be sent to that room

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I suspect that the final scenes of "The Eleventh Hour" suggest that the Doctor does, in fact, return to her five minutes after leaving her as a child, only she can't remember this.

That's nonsense. Adult Amy was clearly having a dream.

Rewatch that scene. It's clearly not a dream.

It's also not five minutes after the Doctor leaves.

Amelia has been sitting outside all night, atop her luggage. She hears something. The camera zooms in. She looks up. She smiles.

We then hard cut to Amy sleeping in bed.

The scene, as shot, is too mundane to be a dream. There's no wonky camera angles. There's nothing out of the ordinary.

I feel like we're going to see Amelia again before the season is out.

 

[wamdue]

well we are all very aware that Doctor Who, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Star Gate or Battlestar Galatica are all TV shows, Amy is interesting in that she has been apparntly convinced that someone who was real was in fact was imaginary, and now she finds out that, that person was in fact real.

It is true that sci-fi fans of all colours may have action figures, or play dress up, but sci-fi fans do this as part of a recognised community, for Amy its just her, fixating on something that no one else sees as real.

I cant help but wonder how impact theDoctor had on the life of the young Amy Pond, I fear it wasnt positive, and I fear at some point she will snap and wont want to let the Doctor go again, not out of love but out of obsession, which is the more dangerous of the two.

Of course there is the flip side, and she starts to blame him for all he that has happened to her, im sure the Master could twist her into siding with him over the Doctor.

 

[Checkmate]

Rewatch that scene. It's clearly not a dream.

It's also not five minutes after the Doctor leaves.

Amelia has been sitting outside all night, atop her luggage. She hears something. The camera zooms in. She looks up. She smiles.

We then hard cut to Amy sleeping in bed.

The scene, as shot, is too mundane to be a dream. There's no wonky camera angles. There's nothing out of the ordinary.

I feel like we're going to see Amelia again before the season is out.

The problem is that he really can't go back and do anything to help Amelia unless it results in a total mindwipe. Which would make the gesture pointless. Anything he does to change her world perspective as a child will change what they did in the future, even if just to remove the "five minutes!" shoutfests or not have an apple to show her to convince her to help. And heck, he can't even go back to stop Prisoner Zero without creating a monstrous paradox since he already dealt with it and the other aliens in the future.

It would be like Left Turn on crack.

The scene just doesn't make a lick of sense unless it was a dream or something similar.

 

[Chaos Descending]

Rewatch that scene. It's clearly not a dream.

I would disagree with you.

It's also not five minutes after the Doctor leaves.

Amelia has been sitting outside all night

How do you deduce that?

No, the Doctor going back to see little Amelia Pond makes not one lick of sense.

Sometimes a dream sequence is just a dream sequence.

Or course, if I am wrong, I hope they do something wonderful with my wrongness.

 

[Cutter John]

Dream or not, I suspect it'll be a plot point toward the end of the series.

I kinda the idea that shes a bit mentally vulnerable. Its certainly original. We haven't had an unstable lead on the series since Tom Baker quit.

 

[Admiral_Young]

She hasn't given any signs that she's mentally disturbed so far...maybe we will see this progress during the rest of the season. I knew that it was going to cause a focal point in her life when the Doctor didn't return five minutes after leaving her like he said he would, and especially after he said Amelia could trust him because he's the Doctor. I wouldn't be surprised that she hung on to the fantasy ideal of a man with a time machine that arrived to help her (even if inadvertently through crash landing on Earth) I suspect from the way the episode was filmed and cut that all of this was done on purpose and this aspect of their relationship will continue to be explored upon.

Amy's life is drastically different than Rose's as well...Rose had a pretty good upbringing and was in a healthy if maybe not boring relationship with Mickey arrived when this exciting man with a time machine arrived to rescue her from plastic aliens. Rose grew to love the Doctor over her time and adventures with him. The Doctor took her away from her mundane routine (which was nicely set up in the teaser and first act in "Rose") Amy's life has been quite different and one might say leaning on tragic...one could say that she needs the Doctor in her life more than any of the previous companions we've seen in the new Who.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Why can we not have a companion like Donna, who just got on with the Doctor and wasn't fawning over him while pretending to be a young, independent modern woman?

 

[David cgc]

It's also not five minutes after the Doctor leaves.

Amelia has been sitting outside all night

How do you deduce that?

It was in the 11 PM hour when the Doctor left young Amelia. The flashback/dream/whatever at the end of the episode was in the daytime.

 

[SG-17]

Of course there is the flip side, and she starts to blame him for all he that has happened to her, im sure the Master could twist her into siding with him over the Doctor.

Possibly, except for the fact that the last time we saw the Master he had a change of heart and with the drumbeat finally gone was no longer insane.

 

[Chaos Descending]

It's also not five minutes after the Doctor leaves.

Amelia has been sitting outside all night

How do you deduce that?

It was in the 11 PM hour when the Doctor left young Amelia. The flashback/dream/whatever at the end of the episode was in the daytime.

Are you sure about that? It looked like night time to me.

 

[David cgc]

Yep. Bright daylight in the last shot of young Amy waiting for the Doctor outside.