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Inter-species Sex

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Maybe it's not the Preservers, but there was a TNG episode where they discovered that many humanoid races had all been created by the same distant ancestor race, thus there is a link between many alien races, so it's not as unlikely that they are fertile with each other.
 
Maybe it's not the Preservers, but there was a TNG episode where they discovered that many humanoid races had all been created by the same distant ancestor race, thus there is a link between many alien races, so it's not as unlikely that they are fertile with each other.

In which case the term "alien race" or "alien subspecies" would be more apt than "alien species".

So scientific name would be something like this:

Homosapiens Sapiens - Humans
Homosapiens Vulcanisensis - Vulcans
Homosapiens Kronosensis - Klingons
 
Ok, so I am in Therapy now. Turns out I have "Multi-Species Seeding Delusion" Syndrome. MSSD is pretty new, as it turns out; I am the only one who has it so far...After reading about the Alpacas, and, what with my Early Childhood Education background and all those kid books I read over the years, with talking animals and human plot lines and shit ("Is Your Mama a Llama?", and the like) I guess I went to an Animal Preserve, and, well, they kinda found me amongst the Wildebeasts and Gnu's, trying to, they say, "hit" on the Alpha females. I dunno...last I remember I was reading this Thread and...

But, the medicine is helping, and I am really looking forward to my new volunteer job. It is part of the Therapy, and my Doctor, a really cool, cutting-edge MD on MSSD, (I am told) named Doctor Moreau, says it will be just the thing for me. My day nurse is a Wombat, and not very talkative, but she(?) he(?) has kind eyes...big, too!

Yeah, the Thread did get kinda weird!...
 
Ok, so I am in Therapy now. Turns out I have "Multi-Species Seeding Delusion" Syndrome. MSSD is pretty new, as it turns out; I am the only one who has it so far...After reading about the Alpacas, and, what with my Early Childhood Education background and all those kid books I read over the years, with talking animals and human plot lines and shit ("Is Your Mama a Llama?", and the like) I guess I went to an Animal Preserve, and, well, they kinda found me amongst the Wildebeasts and Gnu's, trying to, they say, "hit" on the Alpha females. I dunno...last I remember I was reading this Thread and...

But, the medicine is helping, and I am really looking forward to my new volunteer job. It is part of the Therapy, and my Doctor, a really cool, cutting-edge MD on MSSD, (I am told) named Doctor Moreau, says it will be just the thing for me. My day nurse is a Wombat, and not very talkative, but she(?) he(?) has kind eyes...big, too!

Yeah, the Thread did get kinda weird!...
Maybe, you can get together with Samantha Eggar, later?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpBPavEDQCk
 
I suspect the answer lies very simply in the TNG episode ''The Chase''. Star Trek's species are sexually compatible, because Star Trek's species were all seeded with the same DNA in the first place, spread out across the entire universe. It's not like, as the OP suggests, 'inter-species' as in that a Klingon or Cardassian is some completely different creature that shares nothing genetically with human-kind. Humans and aliens can get it on in Star Trek, because the show posits the theory that everybody 'we' meet out there in space ultimately came from the same genetic melting pot. It's pretty much that simple. :)
 
Ah, but are we talking about aliens simply being physically able to have sex, or actually producing a child together? That's two separate threads, really.
 
True. :) Most of the species we've seen in Trek do however seem to be capable of conceiving together, even if the actual physical act in itself might be too difficult/impossible for various reasons.

My assumption from ''The Chase'' was that all of the two-legged, evolved, bipedal species in the Star Trek universe have got 'close enough' DNA for them to be able to actually make multi-species babies. Something which, of course, is genetically unlikely between humans and 'other species' on Earth, as far as we've ever been told! (I wouldn't want to be the scientists involved in that 'research'.)
 
Maybe it's not the Preservers, but there was a TNG episode where they discovered that many humanoid races had all been created by the same distant ancestor race, thus there is a link between many alien races, so it's not as unlikely that they are fertile with each other.
That was the Chase
 
I suspect the answer lies very simply in the TNG episode ''The Chase''.
Would The Chase account for ALL the intelligent species in the galaxy, and further in the universe?

Some sure, but I think not all.
 
The holographic representation of the alien made it sound like all humanoids in this galaxy were a result of their panspermia program.

While I could accept some of the species in the alpha and beta quadrants as coming from this. It makes it rather boring to thing we all come from these guys.
 
My reading of ''The Chase'' was that it covered all the bipedal upright-walking species. Including all those bumpy-forehead-of-the-week types. In other words, the ones that humanity has a reasonable chance of actually mating with are the ones that all came from the same gene pool as humans did. Of course there are likely to be species out there with whom humans are not genetically compatible, just as there are here on Earth. But the majority of those we see, it would seem, are 'human enough' that I'd wager they can be DNA-spliced with to make offspring.

As has been mentioned, if we're talking about mating, then that's the answer. But if we're talking about simply the act of sex in itself, independent of conceiving children, well..... sex doesn't really require the ability to actually conceive..... it only requires broadly the same external organs to be able to fit together without one or the other rupturing something somewhere. There's probably a boat load of non-humanoid species in the Star Trek universe with whom the 'act' of sex can, theoretically, happen.....
 
In much or Star Trek sex between different species is generally accepted and many times produces viable offspring. This is both in universe and among viewers. My question is, what make inter-species sex acceptable in some cases but not in others?

Why do people accept a human having sex with a Vulcan but not a human having sex with a dog?

It was suggested that intelligence is a distinguishing factor. That sex with different species as long as both are intelligent is acceptable.

The problem is the intelligence is difficult to quantify. There are many species on earth that are intelligent such as whales, dolphins, etc.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/top-10-most-intelligent-animals-150325.htm

Certainly other primates would qualify as intelligent.

We inter-species sex be found equally acceptable if the other intelligent species had the form of an octopus(ala Galaxy Quest) or perhaps a horta.

Perhaps the real reason is that these other species are largely similar in appearance to humans. They possess feature we find attractive. But then this seems fairly arbitrary.

Perhaps in the 23rd centuries there are no social or legal prohibitions against inter-species sex regardless of intelligence or appearance.

But also why do we as viewers say it's acceptable for a human to have sex with a species from another planet but not another species from this one.

The real issue I'd like to explore is not the acceptability of inter-species sex; but rather what defines our double standard(admittedly hypothetical because we know of no other species that look very similar to humans).

OP are you trying to tell us something? Has Fluffy actually expressed a desire to redefine your relationship? :wtf:

Seriously though... I try to avoid absolutes as much as possible, but in reality, there is no way in hell humans could ever naturally reproduce with the dominant species from another planet. Genetically, humans are nearly identical to other Earth primates, and they cannot conceive any offspring, let alone viable offspring. So I would say that any "impregnating" between humans and E.T.s would probably look more like Aliens than Spock, meaning we wouldn't give consent.

And to repeat the consensus, lack of consent=no consent (it's No unless it's clearly, explicitly Yes). In ST, that means humans and their potential mate must both clearly understand what they are about to consent to. For here and now on Earth, that means we shouldn't assume consent is being given just because Fido starts humping our leg because Fido doesn't have the mental capacity to understand the concept of consent.
 
OP are you trying to tell us something? Has Fluffy actually expressed a desire to redefine your relationship? :wtf:

Me. No. I'm just surprised at how many people would be ok with sex between human and animal, provided the animal could consent.

In the immortal words of Guy: "That's not right!"
 
If it could give informed consent, it would be sapient, and therefore no longer an animal.

It's the point we've been trying to make for several pages, and you keep bringing it back to beastiality.

You're pushing this point to a rather unpleasant degree.
 
If it could give informed consent, it would be sapient, and therefore no longer an animal.

It's the point we've been trying to make for several pages, and you keep bringing it back to beastiality.

You're pushing this point to a rather unpleasant degree.

Agreed. The question has been asked, answered, and thoroughly discussed. I'm closing it now before it degenerates to that unpleasant degree.
 
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