Similar experience. I got my friend into Trek with Voyager (a good gateway drug, IMO) and then made him watch Nemesis. He told me if that was the first Star Trek he saw he wouldn’t have watched any ever again.
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Similar experience. I got my friend into Trek with Voyager (a good gateway drug, IMO) and then made him watch Nemesis. He told me if that was the first Star Trek he saw he wouldn’t have watched any ever again.
Maybe not, but ID seemed to go down ok with the non Trekkie average Joe audience who weren't so bothered about 'white khan', remaking end of TWOK etc
No, I know...and it has fans to be sure. But you were speaking of Trekkies squirming during a follow up that wasn't as good. Plus, I was mostly just making a bad joke.
P.S. Beyond rules, ID drools.
It is mentioned that the natural process would take decades and some of the Son'a don't have that long (they are also motivated by revenge not just physical needs which cannot be left out of the puzzle).
The Admiral also says they don't wish to live in that section of the galaxy and nobody does (except the Baku, Picard I believe adds).
I think he is allowed different moods and music to suit them. Picard is too experienced in life to only have one acceptable genre.
It's aight. Middle of the road two parter episode presented as a feature film.
Less offensive than Nemesis and less nonsensical than Generations.
Less offensive than Nemesis and less nonsensical than Generations.
This is actually why object to the film so strongly. It was such an unambitious, tepid, non-event. At least Nemesis tried to be a big movie, and failed. Insurrection tried for virtually nothing. It was so unremarkable.
That's unforgivable with your $60M major science fiction adventure movie. Personally I find that vastly more offensive than a glorious failure like NEM or GEN.
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Like they're going to care about anything unless it doesn't go "pew pew boom boom"?
Just wait until the nerds rewrite some of their soap opera and talk show scripts. 
The question is more: "What would you leave?"
I think Insurrection and ID was similar to what happened with The Last Jedi. A lot people did go see it, but was either divided by it, or flat out didn't like it.
And then they take it out on the next movie. No one goes to see it. With The Last Jedi, it was Solo. With ID, it was Beyond. With Insurrection, it was Nemesis.
It was too much like a TV episode to hold up as a movie. Silly stuff in it too. Worf has no reason to be in it, but he is.
You can spot several mistakes in the special effects.
On top of that, the Baku settled the planet before the Federation existed. The Feds violated the Prime Directive and their sovereignty.
In other words they weren't indigenous, they were (at some point) warp capable, and the prime directive doesn't apply,
The pre-Federation Klingons would have probably used the Baku for target practice.
And whose space was it in prior to the Klingons, the Hurq maybe.
And whose space before them? Through the eons that area of space could have changed hands thousands of time.
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