Indiana Jones 5. It's official.
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To this day I don't understand the "hate" Temple gets. To me it's just as great as Raiders or Crusade. A literally rollercoaster of a film. Perhaps it's because I first watched it at a very impressionable age, but it still remains a favorite of mine after all these years. So perhaps younger people feel the same way about Kingdom… If that's the case, Get Over It! Kingdom sucks! 
I don't dislike Temple of Doom at all. It's easily the least watched of the first three films for me (with Last Crusade as the most-watched), but that's not any sort of judgment on the film; I simply don't watch the Indiana Jones movies often and, when I do, I'd rather watch Last Crusade before any of them for reasons of cast and subject matter. The first hour of Temple of Doom is quite gripping, though I feel like it all goes a bit haywire once the action goes down into the mines and there's all the human sacrifice stuff. The final battle on the rope bridge is a fantastic set piece, and I love the ending with the children returning to the village.
Using the raft as a parachute was Temple's nuke-the-fridge moment. That happened almost as early as the fridge, and it was hard to get back into it after that. Then there was pulling the heart out scene, which crossed the line from fun to truly terrifying.
I'd take Temple over Crusade any day. At least Temple was trying to do something different (taking it in a darker direction) than Crusade, which was just Raiders with more jokey jokes in it. (We need the DAWG Indiana! Wah-wahh)
That said, I'll see #5 (Indiana is alive!), but, I wouldn't mind if they stopped making them.
That said, I'll see #5 (Indiana is alive!), but, I wouldn't mind if they stopped making them.
When I was watching The Force Awakens, I couldn't help but think that Harrison Ford had become too old for an action role.
Personally, Last Crusade is my favorite. I consider it superior to even Raiders by a large margin, and its the one I've watched the most
As for Indy 5, I'm definitely interested to see what they do with it. I'm sure a reboot will happen soon after, too. I don't think they should, no one but Ford could really be Indy I think, but I'd watch a reboot as well. I like the character and the concept, so I'll give whatever they make a chance.
Yeah, but the rut it leaves is spectacular.
Named the dog. Named the dog.
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If you don't understand why many people aren't crazy about a movie with a horribly regressive "love interest" who spends half her screen time screaming, not to mention the hero of Raiders willingly subject a child to almost certain death by accepting him as a sidekick despite the fact that his life is full of violence and people trying to kill him, nor to mention highly questionable ethnic stereotypes and a completely unironic glorification of the British Empire, you probably have better things to do than hang around a Sci-Fi/Fantasy board. But I suspect you do understand, and are merely being petulant.
You're not wrong to still enjoy the movie; your tastes are your own business. But you should know that by trotting out the tired thinly-veiled insult of "I don't understand [others' views]," as if anyone who dares to have different entertainment preferences than yourself is some kind of unfathomable kook, you're the one who comes off badly.
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Do you equally despise any iteration of Batman that includes a young Robin side kick character?
Honestly, I don't understand the hate the movie gets either, and it is the benchmark that I use to defend parts of Skull. I've always had a love for Temple. Sure, it plays to old adventure serial stereotypes at times. Isn't that rather the point?
Wow, that is one condescending message. I can think of terms a lot worse then boorish fop then I would use to describe the situation, however....
Honestly, I don't understand the hate the movie gets either, and it is the benchmark that I use to defend parts of Skull. I've always had a love for Temple. Sure, it plays to old adventure serial stereotypes at times. Isn't that rather the point?
Wow, that is one condescending message. I can think of terms a lot worse then boorish fop then I would use to describe the situation, however....
Indiana Jones is not anywhere close to the same character in Temple of Doom as he is in Raiders of the Lost Ark; he's far more callous and gruff, which is why it makes all the sense in the world that he'd have no trouble making the morally questionable decision of allowing Short Round to partner with him.
Temple is the worst of the films simply because it went all 80s and tried to impress us with how dark and gritty they could be.
I always thought Temple of Doom was the best one as a child. I must have seen it 200 times, it was right up there with the original Star Wars trilogy as my favourite film of all time in the 80's. I can still recite it line for line I've seen it that much.
As I've got older I've realised I was wrong and it's clearly Raiders that's not only the best Indy movie, but just flat out one of the best movies period. I still love Temple, it's an absolute rollercoaster of a movie (literally) but is a bit silly in comparison to it's predecessor. I don't think it's at all worse than The Last Crusade though. I rank them both about equal.
As I've got older I've realised I was wrong and it's clearly Raiders that's not only the best Indy movie, but just flat out one of the best movies period. I still love Temple, it's an absolute rollercoaster of a movie (literally) but is a bit silly in comparison to it's predecessor. I don't think it's at all worse than The Last Crusade though. I rank them both about equal.
Wow! I could have written that word for word! Agree 100%.
I've always wondered, with the hate shown toward the "nuke the fridge" moment in KotCS, do people NOT remember the parachuting raft? These movies have always been about suspension of disbelief.. Seeing your hero cheat certain death by some kind of off the wall stunt.. That's what the serials of the 30s and 40s were all about. Ok.. Maybe it didn't really happen in Last Crusade, but we did get the scene where the German plane crashes into the tunnel and we see the pilot looking confused as he slides by Indy and Henry... Granted, he didn't survive, but still...
Those scenes, as well as the face melting and rapid decaying, are why I have absolutely no problem with the fridge. The absurdity was always there and this is just another example of that. I, for one, love the fridge scene.
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Since I started out with Last Crusade, and it doesn't really have that moment for the heroes, I hate both the raft scene and the fridge scene equally.
^^ Dude.. You're doing it wrong! 
Raiders will always be THE definitive Indy movie for me... Temple of Doom has its moments, but Kate Capshaw as the love interest really left me cold, especially with Karen Allen's strong performance in the first one. That's not Kate's fault, I'm sure.. She did well with what she was given... The idea that she would be more "damsel-in-distress" probably fit into the idea of it being more of the times... I never understood why they set ToD before Raiders, but I digress... Last Crusade was more of a "romp" type adventure with the addition of Henry and Marcus's comic stylings (which sort of took the character established in Raiders and reinvented him as a bit of a buffoon)... It was a great movie in its own right, but still, it couldn't top Raiders for me..
KotCS was good... Don't get me wrong.. The movie has a lot of charms and despite his age, Ford still has "it"... Having Shia in it wasn't the problem for me, even though I'm not a fan of his.. There was just something "off" about the way the movie looked and moved... The graveyard set LOOKED like a set... The jungle scene was too green-screen for me.. It took me out of the movie..
All that said, I will never say no to another Indy movie.. Next to Star Wars, these are the movies I hold most dear...
Raiders will always be THE definitive Indy movie for me... Temple of Doom has its moments, but Kate Capshaw as the love interest really left me cold, especially with Karen Allen's strong performance in the first one. That's not Kate's fault, I'm sure.. She did well with what she was given... The idea that she would be more "damsel-in-distress" probably fit into the idea of it being more of the times... I never understood why they set ToD before Raiders, but I digress... Last Crusade was more of a "romp" type adventure with the addition of Henry and Marcus's comic stylings (which sort of took the character established in Raiders and reinvented him as a bit of a buffoon)... It was a great movie in its own right, but still, it couldn't top Raiders for me..
KotCS was good... Don't get me wrong.. The movie has a lot of charms and despite his age, Ford still has "it"... Having Shia in it wasn't the problem for me, even though I'm not a fan of his.. There was just something "off" about the way the movie looked and moved... The graveyard set LOOKED like a set... The jungle scene was too green-screen for me.. It took me out of the movie..
All that said, I will never say no to another Indy movie.. Next to Star Wars, these are the movies I hold most dear...
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