It felt petty to comment on the video itself, but I was disappointed it wasn’t the cleaned-up version from the 4K Director’s Edition.TMP just got some love on the official Star Trek YouTube channel, where they posted the full clip of the travel pod flying around the Enterprise sequence!
TMP just got some love on the official Star Trek YouTube channel, where they posted the full clip of the travel pod flying around the Enterprise sequence!
The transporter accident in TMP crystallised my personal head canon for the technology, tying together stuff that wasn't well explained in other episodes. The writers have since ignored all this but I am stubborn.
- Transporters are extremely complex. There is vital circuitry in the console, the pad, back up circuits in main engineering, and equipment in the hull (for projecting and sustaining the signal to its destination). I have never understood the notion of portable transporters.
- The difficulties in beaming site to site inside a spaceship in the TOS period are caused by an active warp core. Because the Enterprise transporter was not working beaming from the relay station would have run the risk from this distortion.
- the conversion takes place at the start point but the signal comes from the initiating pad, so the communicator should function as a relay for the scanner in the transporter room (suggesting that the molecular scanner can work over great distances or that every communicator has a self-contained independently powered molecular scanner seems a bit of a stretch). Portable pattern enhancers make sense as more powerful relays. I really struggle with the notion that anyone can just be scanned from orbit and beamed up but beaming down a relay before initiating transport would make sense.
It's a six stage process: 1) localised scanning and uploading a pattern into the pattern buffer, 2) phasing the transportee into the carrier dimension displacing energy encoded with information linked to each atom based on the pattern 3) containing that information in the correct order using the annular confinement beam and Heisenberg Compensators 4) transmitting that energy from its start point to a receiving pad 5) releasing the confinement beam so the person snaps back 6) Checking for errors as they snap back and overwriting errors with replicated matter.
Site to site is actually site to pad to site.
- Heisenberg Compensators are not 100%, which is why patterns in the matter stream degrade over time.
- The pattern buffer stores a template, not a copy of the person. This template is used for reference when the beam is released and they snap back into our dimension in the right order. If there are discrepancies between the person in the matter stream and the template, the system corrects errors by replicating matter to match the template. Most transporter shenanigans seems to take place at this point.
- No transport is 100% but the system plugs gaps with replicated matter routinely. Replacing someone with too much replicated matter can be fatal. This is why transporting isn't a fountain of youth.
- If too much of the matter pattern gets scrambled, adding more replicated matter (boosting the matter stream) may not save them.
- Plot specific shenanigans may allow someone to be replaced with 50% replicated matter and survive leading to transporter 'clones'.
- People lost in the stream are not dead, as the dimension exists outside time and space. They cannot be retrieved alive unless there is some way link their atoms to an energy stream.
- Coming back in the wrong order is both fatal and unpleasant.
-Pad to pad is safest because you have back ups at both ends.
-It really wasn't Rand's fault. The power surge from engineering without the functional back up sensor meant that too many of theirs atoms were misaligned to fix the errors at either end. I guess it was Decker's fault for authorising the transport?
I believe TWOK and TSFS used the exact same transporter set as TMP. The camera angles used in those films never really showed us the controls, but I believe the same separate control console area with the physical barrier was still there. You can kind of catch a glimpse of the partition as Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov are entering the transporter room after setting the self-destruct sequence on the bridge.I also liked how TMP (and VI) were the only films to have a physical shield between the pads and the control console, reinforcing the notion that these devices are doing more under the hood.
i dont think its my post, i never watched star trek TMP.I believe TWOK and TSFS used the exact same transporter set as TMP. The camera angles used in those films never really showed us the controls, but I believe the same separate control console area with the physical barrier was still there. You can kind of catch a glimpse of the partition as Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov are entering the transporter room after setting the self-destruct sequence on the bridge.
Yes, specifically Part 2.Do you mean this review?
I've long had that feeling as well. I tried to watch SNW and I couldn't finish the first episode. Nobody acted like a paramilitary professional. They all talked and quipped sitcom characters. Lower Decks was just a less funny version of Family Guy. It seems like everyone involved with Star Trek now is always trying to force the show into a mold of their choosing, whether it fits or not. It's all action and TikTok snippets. Where's the wonder and awe? Where's the exploration? Where are the moral quandaries? Granted, some of these things are present, but for me, not in a way that meshes with what makes Star Trek great.I don't know that I'd say ST:TMP is the best, but it is absolutely my favorite ST film. Especially the recent 4K Director's Edition. I've heard it said that "the film is a turd, but I love that turd." I could put it in right now and just watch the whole thing again and thoroughly enjoy it. Not enough time tonight, but I think I will at lunch tomorrow. And Goldsmith's score is my favorite film score of all time, I never tire of listening to it, I always feel like I hear new things.
ST:TMP is also the only one that IMO truly feels like a big-time, serious, wanna-be-epic, actual motion picture or film, something that is truly 'cinematic.'
Rich Evans is amazing.
The episode of RLM from a few years ago where Mike explains that he's been a huge geeky Star Trek fan all of his life, but feels that modern Trek has left him behind and has so mangled the legacy of Star Trek that it's no longer Trek, and he realizes that he has to just bid it farewell was heartbreaking. Producers can make whatever they want, that's their job, I just wish they could watch that video and realize what they have done to some long time fans, the kind of fans who kept Star Trek alive for decades, the kind who kept it alive for modern Trek to even come along at all.
I love everything about this post and wholeheartedly agree!Been watching it in 4K (Special Longer Version) and am about 55 minutes in, while taking breaks (admitting that folks in the audience in the theater in 1979lacked this, nor was it 1945 when they had actual intermissions much more regularly so one could go get a new soda after indirectly disposing the one they'd bought an hour and a quarter earlier...
But I digress.
A few things noted in what is my top-4 films (for which two of the other three are TWOK and TSFS):
0. Disclaimer: It helps to pretend it's 1979 when you've only seen 79 episodes reran umpteen times, with no bloody A, B, C, D, E, F, G, Defiant, Voyager, NX, Rolaids, Tums, USS Peptobismol, or any other ship in the franchise. But even when not going to that extra level, the movie does hold its own as a good sci-fi mystery plot, even we know it took elements from a couple (mid-level) TOS episodes with goal of making them properly epic as well as "done better" or "done right", for which it succeeds because I can barely tolerate "The Changeling" anymore with flinging big numbers around like 90 torpedoes, dumb gimmicks like killing Scotty and wiping Uhura's memory and they retrained two decades' worth of knowledge in as many weeks as she'll be up to collegiate level in a week, etc, etc... somehow Spock can mindmeld with it, some campiness (NOMAD bouncing up and down, with that voice, arguably qualifies as being intentionally silly) and, of course, the casual sexism that just becomes too ridiculous, but before I really digress... Reeling in the number of hits and actually showing the palpable nature of the threat alone works a 90 million billion jillon kazillion times more than the TOS episode had and I wish I was being sarcastic, TMP really did it better in setting up the big threat, but I digress again:
1. In the three-deck tall rec room, Kirk angrily demands the viewer be shut off a second time because everyone's too busy gawking in awe at what they just saw (just don't ask how they could get images of VGer's cloud after the station relaying it all got zapped.) Kirk, some time later, states "viewer off" in his quarters. It's headcanon time, so the rec room is either controlled solely by a communications officer (outranking the captain in a case like this, like how a doctor can declare the captain unfit?) or for some other set of mental gymnastics to explain this minor difference. (Behind the scenes, this also came from an abandoned tv pilot script and may have been incomplete or not fully edited by the time it was retooled as a big flick.)
2. The special longer version was surprisingly good with pacing, so far. A couple issues, which can't be helped, are there, but what we get in return is well worth the trade-off.
3. Spock's shuttlepod has the name SURAK on it, in English below the Vulcan text. Nice touch. Not really legible before 4K. More, now have fun imagining the argument that Sarek and others must have had regarding the logic behind naming the pod.
4. More pod people goodness, how do(es) the occupant(s) inside not get dizzy when it flips like that? Cool effect, but... why... apart from "style over substance".
4b. The transporter scene after a refit without full testing rightly brings up some tangible real life issues, but the show has done teleportation from other sources so why couldn't spacedock or Earth lock in via the ship's geostationary orbit? Then again, shuttles are cool and I respect both TOS movies that made use of shuttles (TFF's use I adore, but I digress)...
5. Vulcan has moons. Spock said Vulcan had no moons in "The Man Trap", if I recall. This is a small nitpick, and being big on the big screen, the moons added to add to the visual delights of this alien world. But it's a small thing, nobody watched all 79 episodes and every bit of minutiae behind the making of this film, and bigger ones exist re: Spock's origins (e.g. his distant ancestor marrying a human woman later turning to be daddy and all but it's handled so well that it honestly didn't matter, but I digress again.)
6. McCoy's line about "What do we know about any of us?" is a great line, if not misplaced. It also is reminiscent of "The Measure of a Man" regarding the idea of Data being sentient by Phillipa at the end of the episode. Phillipa's feels tighter to the story, and McCoy's line could have been an interesting foreshadowing.
7. On the 4K, the insignia on Uhura's monitor is a waveform icon and not, as perceived on DVD or even blu-ray, a monotone hamburger.
8. The special version brought in a second scene involving Ilia's sex life, which helps a lot - but not fully - regarding her more sexually mature species and hints a tie-in with her "Oath of Celibacy", which - in the theatrical version - comes across very odd in of itself. But iIt's still vague and Sulu shouldn't be the only one drooling to sell the nature of the Deltans' complexities, but the point gets adequately made nonetheless, especially if any in the audeince want to think into it and without the need of adjacent novels, spinoffs, comics, etc, to fully describe what the screenwriter was intending by introducing this. (Plus, it's the 70s at the tail end of the "free love" moment, which they hadn't realized yet...) I wonder how they counter the strains of diseases that become resistent to treatments and rendering those issues worse as a result, unless they had means of eradicating them entirely (now there's your "fantasy" in "sci-fi/fantasy" for ya...)
9. I adore how the action in this movie isn't ships firing at one another but transporter accidents, the wormhole, etc. The word "templated" is simply impossible to use.
10. The cargo area almost looks like it's behind the shuttle bay, which opens to the outside of the ship. (Come to think of it, then the pod docks and Kirk and Scotty depart, the bay icon #6 but we're told that a shuttlepod arrived at bay 5. The timing of which seems too close and we saw no other pods connecting at the same time...)
Addendum/edit: When hitting the Windows key to insert the dancing figure emoji moticons, before hitting "post reply", the dude was blue and the lady was brunette. The pastel purple outfit especially seems oddly more apropos, especially to the 1970s, but both changes are unintentional but lovely.
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