I'm out of here!!! I QUIT!!!
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I gave up on ENT twice: a few eps into season 2 - I was bored. I returned for season 3 and dropped out for the second time was when it ended with Space Nazis. I said, "That's it! We waited all season for Space Nazis?" I never watched season 4 until syndication. I found it was pretty decent overall, if a bit too fan wankish at times. Spiner totally creeped me out as Soong in the Eugenics arc (in a good way, even if he looked massively bloated and old - makeup or "who cares?"). However, TATV is garbage, even if it was nice to see Troi and Riker again.
Endgame made me want to give up on ENT before it began, such was the poor taste it left in my mouth. I enjoyed VOY for most of its run, but Endgame made me think, "Well, that series was awful! What a conclusion!"
As I've said before, though, I love TOS, TNG & DS9 but like VOY and somewhat like ENT. Big diff.
Endgame made me want to give up on ENT before it began, such was the poor taste it left in my mouth. I enjoyed VOY for most of its run, but Endgame made me think, "Well, that series was awful! What a conclusion!"
As I've said before, though, I love TOS, TNG & DS9 but like VOY and somewhat like ENT. Big diff.
Yes.
I was really angry when Kes was kicked out from Star Trek Voyager. I stopped watching Voyager for two years.
And I was even more mad after "Fury" when they brought back Kes-only to ruin and destroy the character.
And there have been times when I've been so annoyed when debating those things that I've been thinking "that's it".
But then there's always something that brings me back, a re-run of a TNG episode which I simply have to watch, a glance in the Star Trek Encyclopedia, a message from some Trek-loving friend or something like that which makes me think "hey I like it, I can't just drop it as if it never existed, it's such an important and good part of my life".
Whatever misgivings there might be and whatever dissapointments there might have been, the good and funny things outweights the bad things.
Trek is fun (after all).
must admit enterprise kinda made me forget trek for a while then caught the trek bug again after a couple of years when i caught the tng series being shown cant remeber which episode it was but i thuoght 'hang on not seen that episode' so i've been sucked back in again
I ran a ST club for about 12 years and saw it grow from 200 to 1000 members. Members often got angry and left. Some after TMP came out, some others who felt ST II was the wrong direction and because Roddenberry had been marginalized. Others got angry about ST IV "dumbing down ST for the masses". Quite a few got very angry about the way we were treated at a big gala celebrity preview event for ST IV. Some people didn't want to see ST restarted with TNG, and were happy to keep their memory of ST as being just three seasons, TAS and four movies. And so on.
But they were just as likely to leave due to fan politics - clubs swing from everyone being apathetic to lots of political maneuvering. Or they suddenly grew passionate about a different SF TV series... and just vanished, sometimes coming back years later as if they'd never been gone.
Much the same as a BBS.
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I never actually thought that, no. With Voyager and Enterprise I'd regularly forget that the new episode was on. I'd make other plans and do other things that night. Then when I remembered, I wouldn't really care.
I can think of exactly when it happened. Voyager, season 4, episode 2 ... Jen L was fired (er, Kes left the show) and was replaced with an emotionless big-boobed T&A robobarbie.
It was nothing more than a ratings ploy, and 42dd of 69 never got any better, nor did the show. I kept wanting it to be interesting, to have the feel of actual exploration as it did in the first season, but it never got any better. When they did finally get Kes back, it was for only one episode and a complete "fuck you" to the character.
Voyager started with such promise - actually, the premise it had was the strongest of any of the series, and it should have been the best series. Unfortunately, something conspired to turn it from interesting, thought-provoking science fiction to "titties in space!" ...
It ended, and during the finale, we got a commercial for Enterprise, with mentions of Kirk, Spock, Picard, and Janeway ... apparently, they forgot Sisko was a Captain too.
The premise of Enterprise sounded like it could do well. Yet, just a few minutes in, what do we get? Big-boobed emotionless "titties in space!" character getting rubbed down with KY jelly in well-defined closeups. It was also apparently very cold on the set that day.
The promise it had failed right then. I tuned in for a few more random episodes, but it didn't get any better. There was the Ferengi showing up almost on Earth's doorstep 200 years before their first contact ... There was the supposedly Southern engineer getting pregnant and forgetting he has an accent ... and apparently there was some black guy somewhere on the ship, but since he never got any lines, I don't know.
I am still here. I did not leave Star Trek. Star Trek left me.
I have the dvds, even of the shows I hate, because I am a completist ... that, and some guest stars I like (Andreas Katsulas in his final Trek role, had to be on Enterprise, poor guy).
I understand why some people like Enterprise. It's the same reason they like porn.
I understand why some people feel the need to like Voyager, what with it being the first to have Katherine Hepburn in command.
As for me, I've got TNG. And the original series. And the cartoon. And DS9. And the movies. Except for Nemesis. You can keep that one.
It was nothing more than a ratings ploy, and 42dd of 69 never got any better, nor did the show. I kept wanting it to be interesting, to have the feel of actual exploration as it did in the first season, but it never got any better. When they did finally get Kes back, it was for only one episode and a complete "fuck you" to the character.
Voyager started with such promise - actually, the premise it had was the strongest of any of the series, and it should have been the best series. Unfortunately, something conspired to turn it from interesting, thought-provoking science fiction to "titties in space!" ...
It ended, and during the finale, we got a commercial for Enterprise, with mentions of Kirk, Spock, Picard, and Janeway ... apparently, they forgot Sisko was a Captain too.
The premise of Enterprise sounded like it could do well. Yet, just a few minutes in, what do we get? Big-boobed emotionless "titties in space!" character getting rubbed down with KY jelly in well-defined closeups. It was also apparently very cold on the set that day.
The promise it had failed right then. I tuned in for a few more random episodes, but it didn't get any better. There was the Ferengi showing up almost on Earth's doorstep 200 years before their first contact ... There was the supposedly Southern engineer getting pregnant and forgetting he has an accent ... and apparently there was some black guy somewhere on the ship, but since he never got any lines, I don't know.
I am still here. I did not leave Star Trek. Star Trek left me.
I have the dvds, even of the shows I hate, because I am a completist ... that, and some guest stars I like (Andreas Katsulas in his final Trek role, had to be on Enterprise, poor guy).
I understand why some people like Enterprise. It's the same reason they like porn.
I understand why some people feel the need to like Voyager, what with it being the first to have Katherine Hepburn in command.
As for me, I've got TNG. And the original series. And the cartoon. And DS9. And the movies. Except for Nemesis. You can keep that one.
Given the title of this thread, I'm very disappointed.
The low point of Star Trek for me was the Space Nazi thing at the end of ENT S3. But that was so goofy and insane, I had to stick around just to see how they'd dig themselves out of that hole.
oh yeah. definitely. this is a great topic.
i have been a star trek fan since the rerun days of the 70s. over the course of my 30+ years, a couple of "i'm outta here" moments stand out in my memory:
may, 1992: after a punishing 6-month barrage of child-centric 5th season TNG crap, i bailed during "i borg" - which, to this day, i still can't watch. that whole "geordi, will you be my friend" thing...it was just unwatchable. i actually stayed away for about a month - i later saw tapes of "the next phase" which i though (and still think) is a pretty stupid episode, and "the inner light" which i thought then was boring and think now is overrated. what hooked me back in was the bizarre throwaway fun of the "time's arrow" cliffhanger, and the 6th season return to form.
fall, 1996: i just gave up on VOY somewhere between the evil clown from the delta quadrant, the valtane-was-clearly alive-at-the-end-of-TUC getting blown up in "flashback" and 20th century LA somehow missing out on the eugenics wars. i just thougt the show was lame, derivative, boring crap. what brought me back? nothing. i still think it's lame, derivative, boring, crap.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "leave" and "coming back" I skipped Voyager after series 2 and have never seriously tried to watch Enterprise. I still buy the DS9 relaunch novels and I'm seriously considering going to see the 11th Star Trek film in the cinema just to make it 11 for 11. I still own the DVDs and many of the reference titles and little toys and I'm playing Star Trek Conquest on the Wii. So, did I leave and come back? Doesn't feel like it, but it doesn't mean I've been following everything with interest either...
I gave up on Enterprise after 5 episodes and I was finding it very hard to sit through a full Voyager episode near the middle of its first run. Even TNG got stale after seeing every episode about four times via Spike. However, I don't think I could ever give up on Trek completely because I still enjoy TOS and DS9 very much.
TNG as a whole did it for me. I liked maybe one in five episodes; just enough to keep me tuning in for a few years. Somewhere around season 4 or 5, I decided Trek was never going to get any better (for me) and quit. As for coming back, I checked out some ENT reruns a while back, and liked what I saw there.
I watched tng as a child, from about 1994 onwards- or possibly earlier-in reruns. Of course by the time i had finished season seven, ds9 and voy had already been on for a while.
I think i watched one episode of each and decided that it was never gonna happen- not for me. They didnt even compare. Tng was my star trek and that was the end of it. I never bothered with either of them until around '99, when i caught an episode of voyager and fell in love. It was 'drone' and it rekindled my love for trek. I then promptly watched every episode of every star trek ever made and ill never leave it again. While i might sometimes have doubts, my love for trek is unconditional
I think i watched one episode of each and decided that it was never gonna happen- not for me. They didnt even compare. Tng was my star trek and that was the end of it. I never bothered with either of them until around '99, when i caught an episode of voyager and fell in love. It was 'drone' and it rekindled my love for trek. I then promptly watched every episode of every star trek ever made and ill never leave it again. While i might sometimes have doubts, my love for trek is unconditional
The end of season two of ENT killed it for me. Just couldn't take it any more, nor could I pretend that I was okay with the series.
What brought me back were the novels after ENT ended (in general)...
What brought me back were the novels after ENT ended (in general)...
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I started to drift away sometime before NEM. Didn't even bother to see it because of the reviews. Still haven't seen it, not even on DVD. If that movie had been better, maybe I wouldn't have kept drifting. ENT could've stopped the drifting, but it didn't. I gave it a valiant try, though. Just couldn't like it.
I mean, heck, over thirty years of being a fan interest is going to wax and wane. I'd say because of this movie now I'm as interested in Trek as I've been since TMP and TNG were announced, respectively. Something exciting is actually happening in the Trek world.
I mean, heck, over thirty years of being a fan interest is going to wax and wane. I'd say because of this movie now I'm as interested in Trek as I've been since TMP and TNG were announced, respectively. Something exciting is actually happening in the Trek world.
Star Trek fans usually don't give up on Star Trek just because they don't like something. Instead, they tend to declare that undesirable episode / movie "non-Trek", which is a lot easier for them. 
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