I'm Not liking Where they are taking the Doctor
- Thread starter Dave Scarpa
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Agreed. Smith's Doctor is certainly less prone to righeous fury, certainly when compared to Eccleston in "The End of the World," "Dalek," "Bad Wolf," & "The Parting of the Ways" or Tennant in "The Doctor's Daughter," "New Earth," & "Waters of Mars." Tennant, for all his goofiness, even had some surprising moments of cold blooded vengefulness, like "The Family of Blood" & "The Christmas Invasion." ("No second chances. I'm that kind of man.")
As was said before, I can just as easily see the 6th, 7th, 9th, & 10th Doctors doing the same thing the 11th Doctor did in "A Good Man Goes to War." In fact, I can pretty much see any of the Doctors doing that if pushed that far, although perhaps some of them would be far less inclined to involve anyone else in the rescue effort. (Of course, the 1st & 2nd Doctors were deliberately trying to keep a low profile. And the 4th Doctor was the biggest loner of any of them.)
the 6th Doctor would've picked up a blaster himself. He wasn't no coward like the rest of them.
Never get involved in a gunfight when you're the most garish thing in the room...
Well, at least if they decide to bring him back, they can always justify it by pointing out that the Doctor is a pathological liar.
yeah. time travel's a bitch, ain't it...?
First Dr was quite fond of dispatching people that way, if i remember correctly was it in the Time Meddler that he again bludgened some poor sod over the back of the head coming out of a secret passage.......while giving the camera one almighty satisfied look.
Indeed, it doesn't work because even if the Doctor is dead, how does the person encountering him not know he's simply him from before he died?
That's the problem with trying to kill a time traveler. He's going to keep showing up no matter what you do. The only way to really rid your self of that kind of enemy is to erase him from time and space but we've already seen how that worked out.
Logically, you're absolutely right, but you could say the same about the Time Lords and that was handwaved away with a line about the Time War being "Time Locked." It's only a guess, but if that is where it's going, I'm sure Moffat could make it work.
Or you could simply say that their trying to prevent future incarnations of the Doctor from causing even more mayhem. They already know that past Doctors have been causing trouble; maybe they're just willing to cut their losses and deal with it, as long as future Doctors can't exist.
I love the idea of them ditching a lot of the baggage and somehow retconning the Doctor to be a mysterious, anonymous guy with a good sense of humor who has lots of strange adventures.
Not really. A time traveler who can show up anywhere, and apparently doesnt age in 200+ years, can continue to use his old lines anywhere and anywhen, and those who think hes dead simply have to grin and bear it as they believe him to be a younger self.He'll have to ditch the whole "'I am the Doctor!!!!! ( look it up)' The bad guy checks his refererences and then proceeds to piss himself". schtick.
[edit] i see my point was made multiple times upstream. Ah well. Great minds and all that...
Anyway...
this whole the Doctor has to apologize for what he's done is BS. It was BS when the Time Lords kept punishing him for "interfering" and it's BS when River of all people lectured him about bringing fear to the universe.
Give me a break. He's the only one who seems to be keeping order in the universe. It's like people's fear of the police. That doesn't mean they are as bad as the criminals. You don't want the Doctor messing with you, then don't try to enslave people or destroy a planet or try to conquer the universe.
Plus this whole notion that the Doctor doesn't care has been taken too far. Of course he cares, maybe he cares too much.
Yeah modern TV is all about questioning "heroes" to lower them to level of the villains (because villains are cool and misunderstood) but that's juvenile.
this whole the Doctor has to apologize for what he's done is BS. It was BS when the Time Lords kept punishing him for "interfering" and it's BS when River of all people lectured him about bringing fear to the universe.
Give me a break. He's the only one who seems to be keeping order in the universe. It's like people's fear of the police. That doesn't mean they are as bad as the criminals. You don't want the Doctor messing with you, then don't try to enslave people or destroy a planet or try to conquer the universe.
Plus this whole notion that the Doctor doesn't care has been taken too far. Of course he cares, maybe he cares too much.
Yeah modern TV is all about questioning "heroes" to lower them to level of the villains (because villains are cool and misunderstood) but that's juvenile.
Yes, the Doctor is a hero, but he is also incredibly arrogant. He has too much power, and over the course of his 900-year life, the things that he has done with that power have caused a whole universe of people to grow terrified of him. It's really not an unrealistic reaction. We all know the Doctor means well, but we also know that other people usually pay the price for the Doctor's actions because he simply can't help but get involved in everything he comes across. He is impulsive, has way too much power, and he doesn't have the self-restraint to keep that power under control.
I love it when the Doctor's dangerous side periodically pops through--it's a reminder that not everything about the Doctor is whimsical and light. The Seventh Doctor made me think this Time Lord wasn't always on the side of the angels, and the Tenth Doctor's final handling of the Family of Blood really did send shivers down my spine.
"The Fury of the Time Lord"--classic stuff. This is a guy who can hand you a bag of jelly babies and spring an inescapable trap for his enemies that he first put in motion centuries ago.
"The Fury of the Time Lord"--classic stuff. This is a guy who can hand you a bag of jelly babies and spring an inescapable trap for his enemies that he first put in motion centuries ago.
