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If the new show is set in the Prime universe...

If it were set in the Prime universe with the intention of making it as an effective, imaginative, and successful production as possible, I think it would need to be set in a period of time shortly after Kirk, Spock,et al of NuTrek were still active on Enterprise (I won't say Starfleet because that would be too far removed). This would allow a new crew to be brought into play, perhaps on another iteration of Enterprise, that would be essentially involved in the same dynamics with other races as seen in the films, but would also be free to introduce others in a way that wouldn't directly contradict Prime continuity.

Such a scenario would easily allow for salient references to the adventures and influence of the TOS characters, without having to necessarily concede the continuity changes that the films wrought. I think that an adaptation of the old standard that would allow the introduction of lower decks personnel and a periodic focus on their personal trials and concerns would be welcome, as it would fill out the impression of a ship's complement whose only dramatic consequences basically run through the command staff only. Plausibly, there could be occasional appearances by the film actors to further keep the connection vital between NuTrek and the Prime universe, even if the changes of the former are not instituted in the program.

I say this because the references to the core audience that have popped in this thread seem to assume that is, in fact, the Old Ones, when from the perspective of CBS and Kurtzman, without question that audience is those non-Prime viewers whose substantive introduction to the brand came from the films. They are certainly not averse to drawing in additional numbers from those that came before, but I think that their opinion of these folks is that most of them will give the show a try regardless and if finding it challenging,compelling, but still comfortable enough to conform to what their expectations of a Prime universe rendering of this time frame would be like, will be likely to stay with the show, at least throughout the first season to see how it develops.

There, I've addressed the OP as stated. That being said, I now will throw in a thought or two, as has been the focus of almost all of the posters, as to this, or any other scenario of the Prime being the operative basis for the production. Zero. As i suggested above, there's absolutely no justification for the showrunner or the network to give any concern to the hopes and dreams of habitues of any of the earlier tv iterations of Trek. As Dennis expertly made clear, the popular acceptance and interest of each ensuing series pretty clearly suggests that the formula, characters, execution,etc. of these were apparently becoming old hat to the veteran audience cohort. Even if the movies were never made and this same decision to pursue a new production was made, very unlikely in itself, what would be the compelling business calculation to justify it? The relative interest of the old shows on its still small fry streaming platform? No.

The old is gone as far as film and tv are concerned. Ten years have passed since its last appearance and all that is being made of the resurgence of brands from the 90's notwithstanding, there is no reason to think that their presentation will be a slavish recreation of what came before. Personally, I would prefer the Prime to continue, maybe in a close in post-Voyager period or further out. But I find that the vitality and importance of this wish has become vitiated over time, so that now it is closer to indifference. I don't like the films, I may not care for the series, but everything else is part of history now and will not be seen again.
 
No thank you. If it's set in Prime, I know I would not be interested in hearing what happened to the characters from shows past. I like the idea better of them continuing to have their own adventures forever and ever.

Unless you're Data.

Who continued having adventures after "Cold Equations"


Who continues having adventures after "Good that men do"


Who continued having adventures after "The Return"

Nobody really dies in Trek.

Yar was the closest to dying, only getting a reprieve for Yesterday's Enterprise and a few years of Romulan imprisonment and rape.
 
This show is going to be aimed at sci-fi fans. If you're not a sci-fi fan the chances are you're not going to watch it.

Was Star Trek '09 and STID aimed at sci-fi fans? Did only sci-fi fans go to see those movies?

No, because those movies were (IMO) dumb action blockbusters aimed at general audiences. If this is what the new series is going for then it won't have me as a viewer for long. I'll give it a chance because it's Star Trek but if it's not appealing to me I'll drop it like I did Enterprise.
 
This show is going to be aimed at sci-fi fans. If you're not a sci-fi fan the chances are you're not going to watch it.

More likely (because CBS isn't moronic), it's going to be aimed at fans of action flicks that are making billions of dollars.

Pure "sci-fi" hasn't been a thing in several years. "Thinking your way out of a situation and then using fanciful technology to escape" was so played out that it was no longer entertaining, especially in a world that has fanciful technology in everyone's hand all the time.

Blowing shit up is always going to bring in crowds. Blowing shit up with lasers will bring in bigger crowds. Not to say nuTrek is devoid of all deeper meaning, but it's entertainment for the sake of entertaining, not Shakespeare.
 
No thank you. If it's set in Prime, I know I would not be interested in hearing what happened to the characters from shows past. I like the idea better of them continuing to have their own adventures forever and ever.

Unless you're Data.

Who continued having adventures after "Cold Equations"

Who continues having adventures after "Good that men do"

Who continued having adventures after "The Return"

Nobody really dies in Trek.

Yar was the closest to dying, only getting a reprieve for Yesterday's Enterprise and a few years of Romulan imprisonment and rape.

Now, I could totally say "I have no idea what those are," as many fans can and do. Some people just don't read the books. OR some people choose to consider them to be an alternate continuation.

Me? I enjoy many of the books I've read. But for the most part, I hold them in the later category.
 
If the new series is set in the Prime Universe. I'd aim for the region where Romulus exploded as depicted in the 2009 movie. What's likely left of the Romulan Empire now likely resembles what Western Europe was like after the fall of Rome. Plunged into a dark ages for years. What's left of the Empire would be a collection of former colonies and slave planets with no political control at all. And in the middle is a big area of dead space where the Hobus supernova was. This area is probably in the Beta Quadrant and near Tholian space. The Tholians may even now be wiped out as well. The area that caused the original catastrophe might even be the same area of disrupted space that swallowed up the Defiant years ago. The entire area may now be overrun with pirate groups and barbarian invaders from other worlds. A good location for Starfleet and the Federation to send in a starship or a few to offer aid, assistance, and protection.
 
They may indeed take Romulus blowin' up as some sort of starting point. Romulus blowin' up was shown in the film, they might use it as a starting point in their series. They may leave Kirk to the films and do something else with the series.

That's the only narrow possibility it'll be set in prime but even in that event, it'll have that JJ sensibility.
 
This show is going to be aimed at sci-fi fans. If you're not a sci-fi fan the chances are you're not going to watch it.

More likely (because CBS isn't moronic), it's going to be aimed at fans of action flicks that are making billions of dollars.

Pure "sci-fi" hasn't been a thing in several years. "Thinking your way out of a situation and then using fanciful technology to escape" was so played out that it was no longer entertaining, especially in a world that has fanciful technology in everyone's hand all the time.

Blowing shit up is always going to bring in crowds. Blowing shit up with lasers will bring in bigger crowds. Not to say nuTrek is devoid of all deeper meaning, but it's entertainment for the sake of entertaining, not Shakespeare.

Nor does it need to be Shakespeare. I think that Abrams Trek has a pacing that can appeal to a younger audience, as well as an aesthetic that feels more contemporary.

But, Prime Trek could be just an interesting if done well. I just think both universes offer story potential, but a clean reboot may a way to draw in newcomers.

I mean, I never cared for Daredevil and only knew about him via watching the animated Spider-man series. The Netflix series has actually interested me in Matt Murdock as a character, with overly relying upon Marvel mythos, at least in a way that made me think I had to research it to watch it later.

I feel like that model could work very well.
 
Is Game of Thrones dependent on fantasy fans for its massive success?
I think it is dependent on people who enjoy fantasy, at least the form of fantasy being dished up on that series.

So it would be fair to say GOT is dependent on fantasy fans.
 
The number of times I've overheard people chatting up the show with their friends at bars, restaurants, beaches, you name it, with the starter phrase "I don't usually like fantasy whatever, but...!" is astronomical.
 
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