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If the animated series had been the fourth season

It seems pretty likely that if there had been a fourth season, Nimoy wouldn't have been in it. He wasn't happy in season three, and while he would have been under contract, Paramount might well have let him leave Trek if he moved across to Mission Impossible (as happened).
So with or without Freiberger, there would be a Spock replacement, either another Vulcan, or maybe a Data type character, but hated by the Nimoy fans either way.
It'd become essentially Phase II. Bring in Xon to replace Spock as Science Officer, but then the question is who becomes the new XO? Scotty would be next in line, but they could've introduced Decker as Kirk's protege, or might they have gone really crazy and brought Commander Thelin into the fold as Exec/Science Officer?
 
Here's how I considered those issues before/during watching them in this order. Somehow your numbers got messed up, but your concerns are there.
  1. the stardates are not in sync with either broadcast nor production orders. Wild swings.
  2. Most are grouped in the middle of the stardates for TOS season 3
TOS stardates are mixed between seasons also, and surprisingly some episodes fit well when mixed.
  1. TAS episode Stardates of 1254.4, 3138.3 and 7403.6 are "out there". Also, that's a span of 6.15 years (assuming 1000 stardates equal one solar year.)
I consider 1254 and 7403 to be possible errors. 3183 mixes that episode in with the first and second seasons. 1312 to 6770 is still a little more than 5 years, though. However, 5 years might not be an exact mission length (give or take some travel time in explored space, for example), or, since the last few in stardate order have plots that deal heavily with diplomacy, it is possible that a fan theory I tend to reject, which is that there were a few small missions after the big 5 year mission was over, could be employed in this case.
  1. I like to explain the physical changes of the sets like in engineering plus the second door on the bridge would come and go when combined with TOS.
Not a great fix here, but I overlook some conflicted elements from within TOS itself when viewed in stardate order (color of Spock's scanner, nylon vs velour uniforms, etc.).

You pointed out to me that the actual Engine Room set change does not conflict in production date, air date, or stardate orders. "The Practical Joker" would fall between the last appearance of Engineering in its Season 1 configuration and the first appearance it in its Season 2 configuration; the TAS version would thus have to be another version of the room somewhere else--not ideal but I could accept it.

The door on the bridge is problem, but maybe the wall in front of it retractable in some way? (Khan does say he had sealed of the exit routes (plural) in Space Seed, and Kirk runs right to the panel where the door would be and starts working controls.)
  1. Two of the TAS stardates are 4 or less stardates (~one day) between episodes.
I can't dispute that. TOS itself includes this phenomenon. When making my list I went with the assumption that even though stardates were in a set order, warping great distances could still slow the reported units down; other episodes benefit from being closely spaced.
  1. Mudd's Passion is bumping up to the two months (164 stardates) needed for The Paradise Syndrome. Plus more time would be needed to tow and repair the ship.
I saw "Mudd's Passion" being after the Paradise Syndrome to fit well. The ship had been mostly repaired but they still had to get some more supplies at a mining planet where they also were expected to apprehend criminal Harry Mudd. Next is "The Enterprise Incident" in which Kirk says they were "due for an overhaul two months ago." That works so well it almost seems like it's on purpose. The Enterprise has been fixed just well enough to stay in service, but not put back to tip-top shape before sending her where she might be captured by Romulans. Why give them a nicer target than you must?

Those are just a few of my thoughts. Thanks for sharing yours.
 
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You make many good points. I'm going to dive into the stardate timeline with more detail which requires me to estimate travel times and episode time based on TAS episode text then make adjustments per my rules. On the surface, the conflicts are no worst than just considering the TOS episodes. :ouch:

On the two months ago statement for the overhaul, I think Kirk was probably fibbing under the situation. Two months fits only if you assume that the overhaul was scheduled at the beginning of the two month coast back to the planet during The Paradise Syndrome.

By the way, I'm a fan for the extra diplomatic missions after the five year mission was over, or the mission was just extended due to a lack of starships and Starfleet couldn't afford to take her out of service at the time. I remember several tour of duties were extended for Aircraft Carriers due to trouble in the regions.
 
Unlike Franz Joseph's designs, in TAS the extra set of turbolift doors replaced not a wall panel but in fact the entire "Auxiliary Systems" half-console (the one that blew up in WNMHGB)
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Could an entire console fold out of view when not needed? Well technically speaking, we see that in TOS several different times as the full sized "Navigation Subsystems" console was often wheeled out to make camera shots easier - and this was captured on film in the final episodes!
So the apparent conclusion is that...YES, unnecessary consoles could be folded out of the way when not needed in order to improve access to the Bridge under certain circumstances.
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So the apparent conclusion is that...YES, unnecessary consoles could be folded out of the way when not needed in order to improve access to the Bridge under certain circumstances.
But was it replaced with a turbolift and seen on-screen as in TAS? :rommie:
 
It’s been a few years since I saw TAS, but I remember that I liked it overall.

The stories felt like Star Trek, but...the animation.

Decades removed from watching Saturday Morning cartoons and being that it was my first time watching it, I found the animation incredibly outdated. (Shows I *loved* as a kid: GI JOE, He-Man, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, none of them are exempt in TAS defense).

I was used to seeing as played by Shatner in live action, but the cartoon moved so stiffly.

Loved the voices and stories, but the animation made the action feel slooooooooow.
 
As unclear as it looks from the angle shown, it is probably not another turbolift, but is the gangway to Deck 2 as in the FJSTM.
Possible, although the angle wall section and mid level hand rail are visually consistent with in the interior of the turbolifts.
I'm pretty sure there's episodes of TAS where that door is explicitly shown to be a turbolift, but I can't think of an episode title at this time
 
Possible, although the angle wall section and mid level hand rail are visually consistent with in the interior of the turbolifts.
I'm pretty sure there's episodes of TAS where that door is explicitly shown to be a turbolift, but I can't think of an episode title at this time

There's a shot in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" where Jones seems to be in this part of the bridge and it looks like the turbolift handles are there. But given the whole debate about whether the bridge dome can fit a turbolift without using the cylindrical area behind the bridge, I thought that was an error.
 
There's a shot in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" where Jones seems to be in this part of the bridge and it looks like the turbolift handles are there. But given the whole debate about whether the bridge dome can fit a turbolift without using the cylindrical area behind the bridge, I thought that was an error.
So, the second door could just lead to passage to the gangway to Deck 2, and not a turbolift? I'm okay with this idea vs. a second turbolift.
 
Perhaps since it's animation, we shouldn't take how everything looks any more seriously than we do the recent Short Trek "Ephraim and Dot"? The stories themselves fit, whether or not there are one or two turbolifts on the bridge.
 
It'd become essentially Phase II. Bring in Xon to replace Spock as Science Officer, but then the question is who becomes the new XO? Scotty would be next in line, but they could've introduced Decker as Kirk's protege, or might they have gone really crazy and brought Commander Thelin into the fold as Exec/Science Officer?
Definitely not Thelin. Make-up costs.
 
Reggie Nalder who played the Andorian Ambassador in Journey To Babel could have done it! His features were the result of a fire I believe and his accent helped the characterisation no end! ;)
JB
 
TOS Andorians are not expensive. Appliances like Spock's ears and Tellarite faces are. Andorians are just blue makeup (cheap) and a wig with antennae.
 
Fortunately that level of reveal is extremely rare JB!
However, Spock curls his fingers round the edge of the console all the time :eek:
 
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