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If Paramount+ Put You in Charge Of Trek, Where Would You Take It?

I definitely don't want an R2D2 & C3PO. But I can imagine some "I, robot"(Will Smith version) doing e.g. care-work for elderly, or "Silent Running" robots helping in engineering.
I guess PIC covered this with the Synths, which didn't end well.

Good point about holograms - they definitely fill a similar function.
 
I have wondered what a Star Trek setting could be like with a Star Wars esthetic. Robots, dirty grungy run down ships and locations next to bright and shiny new ones.
 
The trouble with this approach is that the writers have to think 'How do we change this to appeal to people who don't like Star Trek?' instead of 'How do we make the best version of Star Trek?'
You need an audience to get renewed. If Trek can't pull in enough of an audience, it will get canceled. And now viewers have more options today than they did when TOS aired or when TNG/DS9/VOY aired. Science fiction quality has gone through the roof. There are a lot of great options on AppleTV.

It doesn't make sense for Trek to intentionally limit its appeal.
 
You need an audience to get renewed. If Trek can't pull in enough of an audience, it will get canceled. And now viewers have more options today than they did when TOS aired or when TNG/DS9/VOY aired. Science fiction quality has gone through the roof. There are a lot of great options on AppleTV.

It doesn't make sense for Trek to intentionally limit its appeal.
If quality science fiction is doing well, they should intentionally limit Trek to being quality sci-fi.
 
You need an audience to get renewed. If Trek can't pull in enough of an audience, it will get canceled. And now viewers have more options today than they did when TOS aired or when TNG/DS9/VOY aired. Science fiction quality has gone through the roof. There are a lot of great options on AppleTV.

It doesn't make sense for Trek to intentionally limit its appeal.
Rule one: entertain a large enough audience.
 
Rule one: entertain a large enough audience.
To not get canceled.

Science fiction is not cheap.

If you're running a streaming company, would you rather have a low budget series with large audience or a niche science fiction show with a big budget and a small audience?

And, remember, folks are probably looking at their phones anyway, so you don't need a lot of special effects that they're not paying attention to. ;)
 
To not get canceled.

Science fiction is not cheap.

If you're running a streaming company, would you rather have a low budget series with large audience or a niche science fiction show with a big budget and a small audience?

And, remember, folks are probably looking at their phones anyway, so you don't need a lot of special effects that they're not paying attention to. ;)
Well, getting it cancelled seems to be job one of many online ;)

If I'm running a company I'm probably trying to follow sure things, and getting information from "industry insiders" who are not aware of audience interests.

And, reduced special effects is smart, but characters should always come first.
 
I would make a reality show called Star Trek: Betazoid Weddings. I guarantee that even people who've never heard of Star Trek in their life will watch this show.

But in all honesty, I would simply shelve Star Trek for the foreseeable future until I could figure out how it could appeal to the casual masses rather than the niche audience of Roddenberry/Berman era fans.

Thars the problem. Original Trek was made for people of all ages. Same with the Berman era. They appealed to all ages. Kurtzman is creating shows trying to appeal to younger viewers(hence the modern day slang and clothing styles). Hes made Trek niche now more than ever. A new trek should be designed to appeal to ages 5 to 95. I started watching tos when I was about 4 or 5. I loved it. So we need a new show runner to just let star trek be star trek. Start around the 25th century with little callback to what came before. Bring back a strong professional captain with a moral center. One hour stiroes packed with a moral center, great story abd dialogue. Professional people that do their jobs and not get overly emotional, weepy and congratulatory to each other.
 
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One thing that Star Trek: The Animated Series had figured out was that Star Trek for kids... was just Star Trek. I'd prefer they aimed a little older though so I can have the occasional Conspiracy head explosion.
 
So we need a new show runner to just let star trek be star trek.
Define Star Trek.
Professional people that do their jobs and not get overly emotional, weepy and congratulatory to each other.
Tell that to the people I work with.

One thing that Star Trek: The Animated Series had figured out was that Star Trek for kids... was just Star Trek. I'd prefer they aimed a little older though so I can have the occasional Conspiracy head explosion.
Yeah, and that's when my dad, who grew up with TOS, checked out. He found TNG utterly boring and nothing appealed to him. TNG felt extremely inaccessible to me, unlike TOS, as a child.
 
Define Star Trek.

Tell that to the people I work with.


Yeah, and that's when my dad, who grew up with TOS, checked out. He found TNG utterly boring and nothing appealed to him. TNG felt extremely inaccessible to me, unlike TOS, as a child.

TNG was just as accessible in my opinion. I never had trouble following it. I even liked the first two seasons. I liked that supposedly humanity had really changed. Unfortunately after roddenberry died that slowly eroded and now its gotten so bad 32nd century humans are exactly like 21st century humans. Q was right.
 
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TNG was just as accessible in my opinion. I never had trouble following it. I even wnjkyed the first two seasons. I liked that supposedly humanity had really changed. Unfortunately after roddenberry died that slowly eroded and now its gotten so bad 32nd century humans are exactly like 21st century humans. Q was right.
Kirk was right too. Humanity will not change. Archer the same.

TNG was not accessible. It made people feel stupid in my experience.

This is the same Roddenberry who insisted humans did not mourn. Is that what we should strive for? No more emotion or attachment?
 
Young Daniels.

Season 1: King of Kings.

Young Daniels inbeds himself into the life of jesus, starting as one of the wise men, and ending as Judas, and fights time pirates. Young Daniels embeds himself in the life of King Arthur as Merlin the Magician, and fights time thieves.Young Daniels embeds himself in the life of JFK, and is eventually forced to take over for Oswald, making that impossible shot with a remote control bullet.

Season 2: Bring on the bad guys!

Young Daniels embeds himself into the lives of Julius Caesar, Adolf Hitler, Kahn, Osama Bin Ladin and Colonel Green, fighting time pirates the whole time to keep history static.

Season 3: Birth of the Federation and the temporal cold war.

Lots of clips and nods to Enterprise, culminating in the Earth Romulan war, and Archer giving that speech from the last episode.

Season 4: The Prophet War.

The 31st century Federation goes to war with Benjamin Sisko and the prophets of Bajor. The Burn was a weapon of last resort used by Ben Sisko, because Ben does not fuck around.

Season 5: Burnham and Tilly must Die.

An abridged retelling of the final seasons of Discovery from the off centre perspective of Old Daniels.
 
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Kirk was right too. Humanity will not change. Archer the same.

TNG was not accessible. It made people feel stupid in my experience.

This is the same Roddenberry who insisted humans did not mourn. Is that what we should strive for? No more emotion or attachment?

I don't ever remember roddenberry saying humanity wouldn't mourn. He said humanity wouldnt do things like kill out of revenge or jealousy etc. The TNG crew mourned Tasha and that was in the first season. Most of that is gone from trek. Humanity is pretty much exactly as it is now. Yes it was lofty ideals that roddenberry wanted but that's what made earlier trek so inspiring. That we moved past our baser instincts. Would there be exceptions? Sure. Theres always a couple of rotten apples in the barrel but for the most part humanity had changed. Picard tried proving this to Q. But as we know now Q was basically right and Picard was full of sh%t. Lol
 
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