If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or not?

[darkshadow0001]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

A few weeks ago, I would've said 'No ridges!' but I'm past caring now. Let them do whatever they want. Give them 3 heads for all I care.

That's what I say. It's not our universe anymore anyways, so we should play the wait and see game and find out what happens.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

Ridged, for her pleasure.

 

[Withers]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

A few weeks ago, I would've said 'No ridges!' but I'm past caring now. Let them do whatever they want. Give them 3 heads for all I care.

That's what I say. It's not our universe anymore anyways, so we should play the wait and see game and find out what happens.

Essentially, ridges, no ridges, three heads, left-right-or center you're going to complain about it so isn't that more the "lets make believe" game as in you pretend you can be satiated with elements of a new film but just wait for the movie to come out, note what you don't like about it, and point to those things for justification as to why?

-Withers-​

 

[shapeshifter]

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I'd rather the Nuverse focus on Romulans rather than Klingons... but they should, imo, look as they looked in ENT after being infected. Those were badass looking smooth headed Klingons, imo.

 

[Spork111]

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That's not true. Star Trek: Enterprise was the only thing unaffected.

As much as I like ENT, it has occurred to me that it may very well have been affected/altered by the changes in the timeline. After all, some major plot elements of ENT such as the Temporal Cold War and the Xindi crisis have origin points far in the future, and so any alteration in the 23rd century would probably affect events in the 22nd century... (head asplode)

 

[skep155]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

That's not true. Star Trek: Enterprise was the only thing unaffected.

As much as I like ENT, it has occurred to me that it may very well have been affected/altered by the changes in the timeline. After all, some major plot elements of ENT such as the Temporal Cold War and the Xindi crisis have origin points far in the future, and so any alteration in the 23rd century would probably affect events in the 22nd century... (head asplode)

Ditto, whether the writers know it or not the time line of Enterprise must also have been affected in some way.

 

[muzzleflash]

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The problem is that Trek is incredibly inconsistent in how it deals with time travel. Sometimes it's a predestination paradox/causal loop. Sometimes time travel creates parallel universes. Sometimes it doesn't and the time police have to go fix it.

 

[Set Harth]

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I don't see why the Klingon masks would have ridges if the Klingons underneath didn't.

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

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I don't see why the Klingon masks would have ridges if the Klingons underneath didn't.

Why did Vikings have helmets with horns, when the Vikings themselves didn't have horns underneath?

 

[Robert Simmons]

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Why not....ridges make them crunchier.
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[JarodRussell]

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I don't see why the Klingon masks would have ridges if the Klingons underneath didn't.

Why did Vikings have helmets with horns, when the Vikings themselves didn't have horns underneath?

You mean like the Klingons have cows with ridges and thought "oh wow, that will look scary and violent and powerful on our helmets"? I don't think so.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

As much as I like ENT, it has occurred to me that it may very well have been affected/altered by the changes in the timeline. After all, some major plot elements of ENT such as the Temporal Cold War and the Xindi crisis have origin points far in the future, and so any alteration in the 23rd century would probably affect events in the 22nd century... (head asplode)

But since those far future endpoints for the TCW and Xindi war still exist as well (in the original timeline, which remains unaffected), then ENT is safe.

 

[smalltalk66]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

Simple. No.

 

[Luther Sloan]

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It would be safe to assume that there would be Klingons who were not infected by this Eugenics disease. I vote that there should be a mixture of both fully ridged typed Klingons and primarily smooth headed ones. Give them the best of both worlds and make a quick one time clever statement about it to help explain it the audiences who are not Star Trek fans.

 

[Shogun37]

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I know this is off-topic, but could we have Abrams himself as a redshirt...with the usual consequences. BTW, I do think a mixed ridge/no ridge would be a great idea.

 

[T'Girl]

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... make a quick one time clever statement about it ...

Maybe something more detailed than "It's something we don't discuss."

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

... make a quick one time clever statement about it ...

Maybe something more detailed than "It's something we don't discuss."

I found this statement to be perfect, and ENT ruined it. What a shame.

 

[Dukhat]

Re: If Klingons show up in Abramsverse films would you want ridges or

... make a quick one time clever statement about it ...

Maybe something more detailed than "It's something we don't discuss."

I found this statement to be perfect, and ENT ruined it. What a shame.

Exactly. "Trials and Tribble-ations" was going for humor and didn't take themselves seriously, and it worked. Then for some reason the writers of Enterprise felt they needed two whole episodes to technically explain it.

The problem with this is, there's no way in hell someone like Dr. Bashir wouldn't have been aware of the instances surrounding the deletion of the Klingon forehead ridges as shown in ENT. It's not like the 22nd century Klingons kept it secret from Archer's crew. And yet in "T&T" he's just as dumbfounded as the others.

 

[Danoz]

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People need to remember that Klingons were less inspired by Vikings are more closely related to a modern Samurai culture focused on honor. This was very effective and made for brilliant character development with Worf and others. Turning them into Lord of the Rings evil ground creatures with no real depth or development strips them of everything that makes them interesting.

As for ridges, I think it'll be very odd and confusing to a modern audience if Abrams makes them smooth-headed or goes anywhere near the painfully bad retcon attempt made in DS9 (T&T) and ENT. There will probably be a bit of a redressing, but it would be unwise to go over the top.

To introduce the Klingons I would have them make a power grab given the vacuum and weakened state of the Federation after the destruction of Vulcan. That makes the most sense to me.

 

[JarodRussell]

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Yes, actually, I'd like to finally see Klingons who actually fight properly with their Bat'leths. Worf does all the Tai Chi thing, and sometimes he told "elegance over brute force" stories. Klingons should actually be martial arts experts, and in martial arts, you do not use brute force.