not counting the klingon conspirators in TUC, klingons were only ONCE the main villains in a ST movie (TSFS) and just TWICE secondary vilains (TFF, ST:G), that's not really much.
Ideas You Hope To NEVER See In The New Films
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Khan Noonien Singh was human, yes, but a genetically enhanced human. I'm talking about an unenhanced human with maybe above average intelligence, but in all other aspects just as normal as you or me. Mundane for theatrical purposes, perhaps, but nonetheless practical.
I'll give you the fact that Lursa and B'Etor were only secondary villains in Generations, and that Klaa was merely a hotshot looking to cement his reputation in TFF, but remember how prominently Christopher Plummer's Chang figures in TUC? Sure, it was a big conspiracy that included members of at least three different races, but who was the one waiting to blast the Enterprise to atoms with a BOP that can fire while cloaked, the same one that earlier fired on Chancellor Gorkon's ship to make it appear that it had been the Enterprise doing the deed?
I don't think it was ever definitively stated who was pulling the strings as defacto leader of the conspiracy, although it seemed liked Chang was being alluded to as that someone, and he was certainly being built up as Kirk & crew's main obstacle, hence he (a Klingon) can be thought of as being the main villain among the villains of TUC.
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Where was the time travel in "Nemesis"?
Whoops! I've spent so much time blocking that movie from my memory that I managed to mix up my facts when writing up that statistic. Thanks for catching that! So, three out of the last five, then. Still not a great ratio.
It wasn't original to the novels. We found out in "Tapestry" when Q was reciting Picard's daring exploits that his alternate, flesh-hearted self didn't do.
"He didn't lead the Away Team on Milika Three to save that ambassador... he didn't take charge of the Stargazer's bridge when its Captain was killed... and no one ever offered him a command."
It's never been explicitly said that Picard got to keep the ship after the crisis that killed the captain was over, but that's how it's generally assumed.
1. Kill off a major character (unless it's a REALLY good script).
2. Borg in any form.
2. Borg in any form.
I actually think a big budget reimagining of the Borg could be awesome - kinda like the ones described in the novel The Return, with nonhumanoid Borg monstrosites and more grotesque organic machinery, as well as using CG to have bits of technology replacing human flesh instead of rubber armour and a few tubes over the top.
What they really need to retire is the "Romulan supership" idea. That's been used in the last two films and some of the books.
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But that would bring a whole new layer of meaning to "where no man has gone before".
Star Trek's been around 60 years,./I show a movie TV done at all,.//It is time to bring back some of the old character's,.. that's it disappeared off the air,.//That we haven't seen in years,.///And the new generation,./In the ultimate universe,.//Should also combat stronger than ever,.//We need the alternate new universe,./We need new movies to see,.//We need go-getter,.//The old fans will always be here,.///And the new fan,... will bring new excitement to Star Trek,.///
A plot that is as much about discovery ("...explore strange new worlds...") as it is about blowing up some nutso with a starship would be welcome.
That sounds more like the Grigari than the Borg.
it's not just nemesis you forgot....I still find it hard to even classify the "Nexus" plot-device as real time travel..even though technically it was. it was a contrivance JUST to get Kirk there and kill him for the sake of "passing the torch"
But really...that shouldn't even count towards time-travel plot devices really.
Nah, they can kill off NuChekov and introduce his younger brother realNuChekov.
The only difference I see is that the Nexus time-travel only rebooted a specific plot point, whereas time-travel was more a part of the overall plots of TVH and FC. But time itself is as much of a consideration in Generations as it is in the other two films, what with how often the passage of it is used as a source of regret for Picard, Soran and Kirk.
Really, it's no more a plot contrivance than the whole "slingshot around the Sun" trick in TVH was a contrivance JUST to get the TOS crew back to 1986, or that vortex that allowed the Borg and the Enterprise-E to travel back to 2063. And I'm still unclear as to how the Enterprise-E was able to travel back to the 24th Century at the end of First Contact (though, truth be told, I don't worry about it all that much).
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