Ideas You Hope To NEVER See In The New Films

[Avon]

i hope we see massive amounts of fanwank, 60's tos uniforms, time traveling old Sulu resetting the universe again, to please the minority of super super nuTrek haters.

it would make a horrid flop of a film.

but it would be 'pure'.

also i agree with no shia le charisma-vacuum.

 

[Devon]

You think that in future movies, they would completely undo the mess they created in the first one? I don't.

No mess.

Please understand that I would love to see new Star Trek films - just not the Abramsverse kind.

So what ideas do you hope to never see in new films?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Sorry to burst your superiority, but I formed my opinion when [...]

The only thing you burst was any little bubble of credibility you might have had. I cannot believe you would waste so many words on a film you haven't even seen, much less believe you have anything to contribute to a discussion about it.

 

[JarodRussell]

Well, the new film IS the new idea I hope to never see. But anyways... if they must, they should re-introduce Dr. Piper from TOS:

http://totallylookslike.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/27/dr-kelso-scrubs-dr-piper-star-trek/

 

[Devon]

Well, the new film IS the new idea I hope to never see.

You already saw it, they aren't going to do another origins story in the sequel.

 

[Mr Silver]

You're talking to somebody who doesn't consider the Enterprise series to be real Star Trek (yes, I saw as much of it as I could stomach before giving up in disgust). I am one of those "TOS purists" - but it's not the show that's being insulted by this revisionist crap, it's the show's history, and the older fans. And no opinion is pointless - not yours, and certainly not mine. I just happen to think yours is incorrect.

You happen to think my opinion is incorrect? Fair enough, now thats out of the way lets talk about this so called "revisitionist crap".

ENT was designed to give the franchise a much needed boost in ratings (VOY tanked towards the end) and rekindle interest. In order to make the show more appealing, the "Star Trek" part was initially dropped and more "casual" storyline elements were written into the show. Overall I enjoyed ENT and was disappointed when the show was cancelled. It had a lot of potential but it just wasn't able to break through. It is considered "canon" from the shows continunity and nothing done in ENT is inconsistent or revised in anyway (except the appearance of the Borg, but that was down to FC and as a result probably happened anyway).

I disagree with your statement about the show's history being insulted (and "older fans"). Star Trek is an ongoing franchise, it moves with the times while still containing the core elements of GR's original ideas. The show is very good at creating continunity, even though people bash it. As for older fans, its like senior citizens being reluctant about computers. Its ignorance plain and simple, you can still watch TOS and create your own continunity and whatever all you want, just don't come in and dismiss the newer stuff for reasons that quite frankly border on purist and ignorant terms.

 

[Merky]

I'll start off. Tuvok being the love child of Spock and Uhura. He was born in the 23rd century.

Rewriting everything established in the first reboot to appeal to all the butthurt manchildren all over the fandom spectrum.

 

[M'Sharak]

I'll start off. Tuvok being the love child of Spock and Uhura. He was born in the 23rd century.

Rewriting everything established in the first reboot to appeal to all the butthurt manchildren all over the fandom spectrum.

Let's keep it about the movies and steer away from making unkind observations about any particular subset of fandom, shall we? That way madness lies.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Complete remakes of TOS stories, just with a subplot tacked on involving Spock's grief over his dead Mother and loss of Vulcan.

References like the NX-01 alongside other Enterprises on the Rec Dec or in the briefing room? Bring it on. I liked that show and would've preferred three more seasons of it, over JJ Abrams' film. So nothing would make me happier than knowing what happened, counted for something.

 

[Deckerd]

Any kind of realistic science. That would ruin it for me.

 

[F. King Daniel]

References like the NX-01 alongside other Enterprises on the Rec Dec or in the briefing room? Bring it on. I liked that show and would've preferred three more seasons of it, over JJ Abrams' film. So nothing would make me happier than knowing what happened, counted for something.

Six months before the attack on Vulcan, Scotty killed Porthos XVIII in a transwarp beaming experiment. Archer exiled him to Delta Vega.

That's what happened.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Six months before the attack on Vulcan, Scotty killed Porthos XVIII in a transwarp beaming experiment. Archer exiled him to Delta Vega.

For some reason, I got the impression that happened longer than six months prior. A lot longer. Years perhaps. Scotty had been reassigned there and forgotten about.


EDIT - Actually forget all that. I checked Memory Alpha and it says 6 months. I assume they got that from a line of dialogue in the film, I didn't catch.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Justin Bieber as a young Jean-luc Picard

 

[Bob Karo]

I don't want to see sparkling humanoid vampires.

Sparkling gaseous vampires are another matter entirely.

 

[Mr Silver]

The Enterprise crew finding Data's head under San Francisco...

 

[Greg Cox]

I disagree with your statement about the show's history being insulted (and "older fans"). Star Trek is an ongoing franchise, it moves with the times while still containing the core elements of GR's original ideas. The show is very good at creating continunity, even though people bash it. As for older fans, its like senior citizens being reluctant about computers. Its ignorance plain and simple, you can still watch TOS and create your own continunity and whatever all you want, just don't come in and dismiss the newer stuff for reasons that quite frankly border on purist and ignorant terms.

Just to be clear, nobody speaks for all us "older fans." I'm a gray-haired, first-generation TOS fan who rolls his eyes whenever self-declared true fans insist that all of us old-timers are obliged to be "insulted' by ENTERPRISE, the new movie, or whatever. Times change, ENTERPRISE wasn't bad, and the new movie was great.

But go easy on us regarding the computer thing, okay? It's not ignorance; it's being born before any of this baffling new technology existed. We didn't grow up on this stuff like your generation did, we weren't texting before we could talk, and the only "computer" lesson I remember getting in school involved cutting out cardboard punchcards . . . really!

It's like asking somebody who grew up speaking English to switch to Mongolian--or be called ignorant. We didn't learn computerese when we were kids so it doesn't come naturally to us . . . and is more than a little intimidating.

 

[sonak]

beautiful alien women coming onboard and stealing McCoy's brain, then having him moved around via remote control while the crew goes on a quest to retrieve his brain.

 

[M'Sharak]

...

But go easy on us regarding the computer thing, okay? It's not ignorance; it's being born before any of this baffling new technology existed. We didn't grow up on this stuff like your generation did, we weren't texting before we could talk, and the only "computer" lesson I remember getting in school involved cutting out cardboard punchcards . . . really!

...

And cutting them out with stone knives, too - none of those nice scissors with the rounded ends for us!



M', not running with scissors

 

[Patrickivan]

A shakey camera scene... Because if we have image stabilization built into us, and in cameras now, why can't we have that in the 23rd century? I mean if that's what they want, why not just film the whole thing with camera phones.

 

[C.E. Evans]

^^^
But the camera still gotta shake when the ship is hit by something and the crew is knocked around though.