Ideas You Hope To NEVER See In The New Films
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Are you mad? I would LOVE to see that. All it needs is 130 year old Uhura on communications:
"Hailing frequencies are open Captain... unless it's just my hearing aid playing up."
And 140 year old Rand serving coffee in her hoverchair:
"Look at my legs!"
Sweeeeeet.
No more madmen ruining the Federation, please! No more angry supervillans! This is not a comic book!
I do not wish to see a tap dancing finale starring Mr "Twinkletoes" Spock and Jim "Clogs" Kirk set to the tune of "She'll Be Coming 'Round The Mountain" as played by Montgomery "Scotty. Really? Yes. Oh." Scott on the bagpipes.
So don't do that. That would be bad. Just no. I really mean it. Don't.
So don't do that. That would be bad. Just no. I really mean it. Don't.
Romulans!
No love triangles of any kind between anybody for any reason
I just plan to never see any new films. That way they can make them as stupid as they please (which is why I didn't see this one - all the comments, pictures, and spoilers I saw on the forum convinced me it wouldn't be worth wasting my lifespan on it). 
^You do realize you've wasted more of your lifespan on your research and coming to this decision of yours than if you'd just sat down, watched the movie and formed a real opinion of it?
I just plan to never see any new films. That way they can make them as stupid as they please (which is why I didn't see this one - all the comments, pictures, and spoilers I saw on the forum convinced me it wouldn't be worth wasting my lifespan on it).
Not to sound mean, but I think this is a bit of a negative and quite frankly, pointless opinion. ST09 is definitely worth watching, not just as a Star Trek movie but as an almost universally critically acclaimed blockbuster hit. If its not Trek enough for you, then just disregard it as a Trek movie. Don't let other peoples opinions put you off, especially since most of the negative reviews come from TOS purists who consider it an insult to a show that was first aired 45 years ago.
As I've pointed out before, even if one considers Trek '09 an abomination one should at least be open-minded enough to grant that any sequels may better reflect what they are hoping for in a Trek film.
Would you judge TNG based solely on "Encounter at Farpoint"?
How anyone can consider themselves a "true" Trek fan while refusing to honor one of the cornerstones of Trek, IDIC, is beyond my ability to understand.
Would you judge TNG based solely on "Encounter at Farpoint"?
How anyone can consider themselves a "true" Trek fan while refusing to honor one of the cornerstones of Trek, IDIC, is beyond my ability to understand.
Sorry to burst your superiority, but I formed my opinion the moment I heard that Chekov and Kirk were supposed to be contemporaries at the Academy. That's ridiculous, and upon seeing other snippets of information here, my opinion saw no reason for revision. I'm very sure I did not spend over 90 minutes coming to this opinion, so I certainly did not waste more lifespan deciding than if I'd watched the thing.
Not to mention that the local movie theatre closed down and I don't own a TV, so couldn't watch it anyway... However, I did state somewhere on the forum that I'll probably read the book some day, since it was written by Alan Dean Foster. At least I know the book will be well-written.
You're talking to somebody who doesn't consider the Enterprise series to be real Star Trek (yes, I saw as much of it as I could stomach before giving up in disgust). I am one of those "TOS purists" - but it's not the show that's being insulted by this revisionist crap, it's the show's history, and the older fans. And no opinion is pointless - not yours, and certainly not mine. I just happen to think yours is incorrect.Not to sound mean, but I think this is a bit of a negative and quite frankly, pointless opinion. ST09 is definitely worth watching, not just as a Star Trek movie but as an almost universally critically acclaimed blockbuster hit. If its not Trek enough for you, then just disregard it as a Trek movie. Don't let other peoples opinions put you off, especially since most of the negative reviews come from TOS purists who consider it an insult to a show that was first aired 45 years ago.I just plan to never see any new films. That way they can make them as stupid as they please (which is why I didn't see this one - all the comments, pictures, and spoilers I saw on the forum convinced me it wouldn't be worth wasting my lifespan on it).
Mmm... that wasn't a great example to use (Encounter at Farpoint), since it never really got a great deal better, at least not for me. I've watched every episode of TNG and do have my favorites, but TNG is certainly not my favorite or even my second-favorite flavor of Star Trek. What kept me watching was Patrick Stewart.
Tell me, should I quote IDIC to those who come into the Voyager forum and say what an awful show it was? (that's my 2nd-favorite ST show, btw)
Frankly, I don't think any of the series' pilots represented the best (or worst) the show had to offer. If TNG doesn't work for you, pick and choose as appropriate. 
I think each of the series had a number of episodes that were among the best Trek had to offer, and those who summarily bash any of them are either being ignorant or careless with their phrasing. If they can't be bothered to offer substantive analysis based on actual viewing experience, then their opinions aren't worth a great deal to me.
I once had a friend criticize me for being unwilling to see a movie because I found the trailer uninteresting...but I would be the first to admit that the movie might have ultimately been worth it; I simply wasn't qualified to say. Unfortunately people are prone to making rash, overly-broad and unqualified statements such as "NuTrek Sucks!!!" without giving the matter any form of real consideration.
If you can't say what you mean, how can you be expected to mean what you say?
I think each of the series had a number of episodes that were among the best Trek had to offer, and those who summarily bash any of them are either being ignorant or careless with their phrasing. If they can't be bothered to offer substantive analysis based on actual viewing experience, then their opinions aren't worth a great deal to me.
I once had a friend criticize me for being unwilling to see a movie because I found the trailer uninteresting...but I would be the first to admit that the movie might have ultimately been worth it; I simply wasn't qualified to say. Unfortunately people are prone to making rash, overly-broad and unqualified statements such as "NuTrek Sucks!!!" without giving the matter any form of real consideration.
If you can't say what you mean, how can you be expected to mean what you say?
Well, since I did see bits and pieces of it, I am at least basing my opinion on what I did see, not just hearsay. I'm not like the nuDune haters who say "So-and-so said the new books are crap, so I'm not going to read them because they're crap!" (I happen to think they're crap, but I have also waded through reading all of them).
Shall we just leave it at me dropping in to say I don't expect to ever waste any of my lifespan watching ST whatever-it-is, as long as it continues with this current nonsensical reinterpretation of what did not need reinterpreting?
I'll leave now and go back to the TOS and Voyager forums (albeit with the occasional foray into the Shouting Spock thread)...
Shall we just leave it at me dropping in to say I don't expect to ever waste any of my lifespan watching ST whatever-it-is, as long as it continues with this current nonsensical reinterpretation of what did not need reinterpreting?
I'll leave now and go back to the TOS and Voyager forums (albeit with the occasional foray into the Shouting Spock thread)...
If you watched the film then you'd know why, but you don't want to, so it should not sway you one way or the other.
Kirk and Chekov are still "contemporaries" in that too.
Well thanks for your input on the ideas you hope to never see in the new films. Moving on now.
Because Chekov is some kind of super-duper smart wunderkind, I heard...
Yes, but I have never met an Alan Dean Foster book I didn't enjoy. Since he always manages to make the book adaptations much better than the movie, I would have a better time of it. Even though the whole premise is silly anyway (in my opinion, of course).
Please understand that I would love to see new Star Trek films - just not the Abramsverse kind.
You think that in future movies, they would completely undo the mess they created in the first one? I don't. Unless this one is meant to be a standalone that has absolutely no connection to any other Star Trek movie or TV show - in which case, why even call it Star Trek?
It's the entire premise I don't like. So yes, assuming there would be no radical changes to this premise, I do feel able to judge them insofar as I doubt I personally would find them enjoyable. Remember, I'm one of those terrible "purists" who couldn't even tolerate the Enterprise series. Or nuBattlestar Galactica (but that's another argument/thread which I won't take any further here).
It's the entire premise I don't like. So yes, assuming there would be no radical changes to this premise, I do feel able to judge them insofar as I doubt I personally would find them enjoyable. Remember, I'm one of those terrible "purists" who couldn't even tolerate the Enterprise series. Or nuBattlestar Galactica (but that's another argument/thread which I won't take any further here).
I don't think we'll hear anything more about alternate universes and changed timelines in Star Trek XII--the new status quo was established in Star Trek XI and the next movie will be going forward in this new reality.
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