I rmember when Star Trek II wasn't out yet

[JonnyQuest037]

15 in real life but who knows how many in TOS timeline?

15 years since "Space Seed," according to both Khan and Kirk in the movie.

 

[johnnybear]

Maybe there were some unseen children then in cryogenic sleep too? No, didn't they state there were 72 adult forms? Either that or children grow up pretty quick and tough on Ceti Alpha V!
JB

 

[3D ChessMaster]

...and we didn't know it was Khan. I remember thinking--"PLEASE let them do the return of Gary Mitchell! I KNOW he erected a telekinetic barrier at the last moment, was still hurt but healed by taking conscious control of his cells with his powers, even head wounds..." Always seemed to me coming back to the pilot would have been so cool, taking up THAT story after it left off. To begin with, amazing cool mental powers. To end with, wicked cool mental powers.

GM would attempt to create more transespers I'd guess, or maybe after his experience with Dehner, not (but I'd bet he'd chance it). He'd want all kinds of unpleasant revenge. Maybe, surprise, some later evolution of his leeches out all anger or desire to do harm (as in Outer Limits The Sixth Finger). Maybe he knocks off the whole Romulan government (Scanners+ scenes ) and takes control of their war apparatus in addition to his own powers. Maybe he and the Tholians find common ground and we meet him on the Tholian border, experimenting with planets. Maybe he likes Genesis and sees amazing possibilities for his powers and a Genesis device acting together, Who knows? Feel free to post script ideas, go nuts.

Ok JJ show me some daring! And look, you don't have to invent anything. All the conceptual heavy lifting is done (by Roddenberry and Peeples).

Ah here's someone else:

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I wondered what happened to the equivalent of Gary Mitchell on the the ship which left the buoy , sorry I cannot remember its name, did they develop 'godlike' powers and live on or did the other ship destroy itself in destroying them. Maybe they became the being in the movie Star Trek 5. The trouble with a sequel using Gary Mitchell is if Mitchell wasn't stopped early as in the episode he was just going to get too powerful to deal with, Khan was a more logical enemy to develop from an episode into a film and Montabaln vs Shatner chemistry made for a good movie. It was sad that Kirk was punished in Star Trek Two by losing his Son and Spock for showing mercy to Khan in Space Seed

 

[Captain Rob]

Kirk lost his son in Star Trek III.

Newbies

 

[3D ChessMaster]

Thanks for your correction, if not for the sneering ' Newbies' comment .I still feel the point that it was unfortunate that Kirk was punished in Star Trek 2 for showing mercy in Space Seed to be a valid one.

 

[Vandervecken]

I wondered what happened to the equivalent of Gary Mitchell on the the ship which left the buoy , sorry I cannot remember its name, did they develop 'godlike' powers and live on or did the other ship destroy itself in destroying them. Maybe they became the being in the movie Star Trek 5. The trouble with a sequel using Gary Mitchell is if Mitchell wasn't stopped early as in the episode he was just going to get too powerful to deal with, Khan was a more logical enemy to develop from an episode into a film and Montabaln vs Shatner chemistry made for a good movie. It was sad that Kirk was punished in Star Trek Two by losing his Son and Spock for showing mercy to Khan in Space Seed

I suppose I was hoping for a more "cosmic" storyline--I'd have preferred less accessible, not more. We have only Sulu's evaluation and our own observation to go on. Maybe an upper ceiling is reached in this psionic power ascent, an asymptote. Or maybe the ascent is quantized, and a ceiling is hit but can be broken through to reach a new, higher one--after meeting some new conditions, which could be the plot of the story as well.

I imagine GM standing on the Doomsday Machine (he finds another derelict), directing it, enhancing it to be even more powerful and harder to destroy, his transportation through space; he can open wormholes, or go into warp, and doesn't need a hull around him. Starfleet and maybe even other AQ powers launch a Wolf 359-style attack on him, losing many to both his powers and to the DM. Maybe, as I said, he forms a temporary alliance with a powerful but oddball group like the Tholians, because he finds it a little easier to respect beings he doesn't entirely understand, and then they come to blows when there is a disagreement over objectives or means, and he destroys a third of the Tholian Assembly, but is finally hurt by maybe enough brain power drain to have to take time to recover, at which point he is at least vulnerable. And/or our heroes must find the one thing that possibly can stop him (our McGuffin), or someone must chance his own psionic evloution while concentrating on not becoming a sociopath (or god, same thing), then to battle GM, or maybe both. There are all kinds of possibilities.

Sigh. Then again, we got cosmic in TFF, and it wasn't so good. But shit they could do it right (maybe). BoBW showed that it can be done right, although on tv.

 

[Drone]

I wondered what happened to the equivalent of Gary Mitchell on the the ship which left the buoy , sorry I cannot remember its name, did they develop 'godlike' powers and live on or did the other ship destroy itself in destroying them.

It was the Valiant.