They haven't rewritten it, and the Picard show existing proves that.
The entire Picard museum exhibit, proves that.
I preferred the Prime timeline.
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The entire Picard museum exhibit, proves that.
I said its how I personally see it. The Picard show was overwritten by the DSC stuff already, and (viewers of Picard) are watching events from a defunct timeline.
Of course, it could still ALL be Picard's Nexus fantasy, and there was never any FC time travel to begin with.
I don't believe in time travel creating dual paths; I believe timelines are rewritten, and alt. univereses are just that; other universes that always existed. With time travel as presented in the bulk if the Trek canon, my assumptions are that FC rewrote the past slightly, bringing ENT into the equation, and the Borg Drone in ENT changed the events leading up to the 23rd century even more, leading to a new 23rd century altered by information and technology from the future (and, most likely, section 31 style research into said technology...) .... the ENT Mirror Defiant was sent over before the timeline was rewritten, and therefore retains the original 23rd century aesthetic. The 23rd century we are watching now on DSC is the current, post tampering version of the 23rd century, and the 24th should be unrecognizable by the time we catch up to it.
And has zero impact on how CBS sees it, since they still market TNG and the like as though they exist.
The trailer for Picard suggests against this.
Which is why I said its already been rewritten. Doesn't mean we can't still watch the story.
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I'm not really following. Picard shows artifacts from TNG and the TNG Movies. It leads me to believe that the TNG Era still looks like what we saw in TNG/DS9/VOY in Picard.
It leads me to believe -- if we're going with this -- that the look of TOS and everything pre-TOS was changed but by the time we get to TNG, somehow things have worked themselves out to look more or less like how they did in TNG, DS9, and VOY. We only really have the trailer and the Picard Museum to go off of, but that's the impression I'm getting.
Unless you're saying TNG took place after everything was already changed. If that's what you're saying, okay, fine. But that's pre-FC, and "Relics" and "Trials and Tribble-ations" messes that up. Otherwise, it would work.
Yup, I know.
Just backing up my personal preference at canon, with canon time travel logistics. CBS and marketing can think whatever they want, obviously, as they own it - but I am interpreting the data they give us differently then the mainstream consensus.
This is quite possible, if we are going with the "time wants to fix itself" take on things, and have stuff more or less restored in line with itself by the movie era - I just find it unlikely, since the farther back you go to change something, the worse the butterfly effect would get. The DSCverse take on the 24th should be *radically* different than what we've already seen, so my *personal take* is that Picard was already wiped out by previous time travel shenanigans, and this is just a peak under a layer into a defunct timeline. Or a Nexus fantasy.
No, I'm saying TNG took place before "FC/ENT" rebooted the 23rd century look, so the tribute episodes (and the Defiant Interphase) all took place before the 23rd century rewrite. I'd go with "pure luck that things happened similarly" or "already layered over and defunct" as the two major choices, and my personal choice is the latter, lol.
Okay, got it now.
So there are still universes out there where the Nazi's won WW2, and one where the Borg took over Earth, and one where a Klingon war is still going on, and one where Year of Hell happened, and one where the whale probe destroyed earth.....
Yup.
I fundamentally disagree with this being how timelines work; I don't believe that an "alternate choice" would make a physically new, physically solid *universe* out there with duplicates of everything and anything, onward to infinity. I refuse to believe that is even feasible. On top of that, it takes the impact of every time travel story, the stakes and the risk and the importance of victory.... and flushes it out. Ho hum. Doesn't matter, you didn't save anyone, you didn't restore shit.
But, to each their own.
I don't need to believe it. It's part if Trek canon.
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TNG Parallels.
Universal mitosis.
Human history is tiny and shit.
Nothing we could do could fundamentally cause the universe to divide, but if it's always dividing, then human history is just along for the ride as the multiverse expands.
Universal mitosis.
Human history is tiny and shit.
Nothing we could do could fundamentally cause the universe to divide, but if it's always dividing, then human history is just along for the ride as the multiverse expands.
Trek canon in like 80% of cases is straight timeline rewrite. Kelvinverse is most likely one of those pre-existing alternates like the Mirror and wherever Lazurus came from. Its not made explicitly clear onscreen that the time travel created an alternate universe and not a rewrite. I'm not convinced that Parallels aren't just quantum possibilities made solid temporarily. Its the only episode that gives credence to the idea that there are literally physically infinite universes encapsulating every single possible choice every single possible random event/choice in the universe creates.
Kurtzman: "You don't have to believe. I'm not even sure that I believe. But if there's even a chance that Canon has an eternal soul, then it's my responsibility."
The Suits: "Yours?"
Kurtzman: "As surely as if were Gene's own. Give me all the timelines. With John Eaves' help I can --"
The Suits: "The Franchise won't be able to take the confusion, Alex, and you know it."
The Suits: "Yours?"
Kurtzman: "As surely as if were Gene's own. Give me all the timelines. With John Eaves' help I can --"
The Suits: "The Franchise won't be able to take the confusion, Alex, and you know it."
Spock and the Nerada both, one after the other, went into a red hole, and shat on Jim Kirk's birth.
If the Nerada changed time so much (Nix Vulcan) that a future where prime Spock and the prime Nerada are pushing with their shoulders to head into the past, then the ship second in line would have vanished as the prime timeline was over written, and could not have followed the other one into the kelvin timeline.
Just for a minute, maybe it was Spock going in second, existed in the prime time line, after Nero created the Kelvin timeline.
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