I miss Stargate... anyone for some SINO?

[AntonyF]

I gave up on Stargate Universe... I have plenty of other tedious ways to spend my time.

But the trouble is, I'm pining for Stargate. I'd love some more Atlantis right now. Or a new Stargate series.

Trouble is, of course, there is a Stargate series. It just doesn't feel like there is to me. Just like GINO, I'm thinking it's SINO - Stargate in Name Only. It just seems to have no relation to the Stargates I loved, apart from having some star gates.

I suppose my point is, I'm missing a show that's actually here. So that leads to a something that can't be fixed! I can't wish for another series to be launched, for example, which I could if there was no Stargate on the air

Ho hum...

 

[JonathonWally]

Well, we have 2 Stargate DVDs on the horizon, hopefully, so it's something.

I'm with you Universe, I started out digging it, but, as Robert Maxwell and I were discussing, it's hard to look forward to a series where the writers talk about how excited they are about copying every other TV series.

Makes one pretty weary.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Universe until the end of the season and see if it finds some legs, but I probably won't bother beyond that if it's just the same bland, generic formula.

Ironically, if the show was more like BSG, I would probably enjoy it more. But the characters here aren't as compelling, they don't face a real and menacing threat, and the writing isn't up to par, either.

 

[AntonyF]

Yeah, I did see a thread about an upcoming SG movie, so that is good! I hope that they feel like the original series... I imagine they must have a bit of a dilemma, whether to update the style so SGU fans can dig it, or keep it old school for the original SG1 fans.

As to SGU, nothing happened. The cast were just so uninteresting I didn't care if they lived or died (Scott I want to boff, but that's not enough to hold my interest). Just nothing happened at all. I didn't conciously stop, and say "I'm not going to watch it anymore". But I didn't go over to my friend's to see it, and he didn't suggest we watch it, which is a defacto giving up. We didn't even hate it, it was so medicore!

 

[JonathonWally]

Yeah, I did see a thread about an upcoming SG movie, so that is good! I hope that they feel like the original series... I imagine they must have a bit of a dilemma, whether to update the style so SGU fans can dig it, or keep it old school for the original SG1 fans.

They're doing and Atlantis movie and an SG1 movie.

Stargate: Revolution

Stargate: Extinction

Though I don't think anything is set in stone yet.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I'm boycotting Stargate until MGM (is it still in business? ) realizes that the only way that the franchise will ever be worthwhile is to re-imagine it with a totality and ruthlessness that will make Ron Moore's BSG look faithful to the original by comparison. SG:U is the nail in the coffin: even when the current crew tries for a big change, they just end up deleting the aspects that made Stargate semi-tolerable to begin with.

The writing is so bad I can't even stand to watch the DVDs with Ben Browder and I'm not so sure if even Joe Flanigan is enough of an inducement. That's some baaaaad writing.

So SINO is what I want. Really SINO. SINO to the max. Go back to the beginning, Children of the Gods, and do the whole thing over again. Use the same elements - Stargate has always had an abundance of good ideas - but this time, don't shy away from them! Actually pursue ideas like the Tok'ra fully rather than just dabbling and then fleeing when anything gets too real.

I don't really miss Stargate, tho. Not like Star Trek. Right now, I'd watch Andy Dick, Kathy Griffin and Rod Blagojevich on the USS: D-List if they were wearing Starfleet uniforms.

Ironically, if the show was more like BSG, I would probably enjoy it more.

BSG is what they were obviously going for, but they don't have the first idea how to actually pull it off. If MGM thinks there's money in doing Stargate-as-BSG, and there probably is, they need to fire the current writers/producers and hire Ron Moore & gang, or as many of them as are not working on Caprica (and who knows how long that's gonna last anyway.)

 

[sidious618]

I love Universe so far but I could see it going into bad territory if they're not careful. However, I love Rush enough that I'd still watch some bad episodes just for him. If it gets bad, though, like Atlantis bad, I'd have to quit.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I just re-watched the entirety of Stargate SG-1 Season Four with a friend over the weekend and found how much I missed the series. It's really terrific science fiction, comedy, romance, etc. The best kind. I realized how much I'd miss Hammond of Texas! I didn't know about the SG-1 movie...although I suspected they would make antoher one. I hope it doesn't involve time travel. Looking forward to Stragate Extinction as well.

 

[Michael Chris]

I think the Atlantis movie has basically been scrapped.

 

[Harvey]

Aren't the sets still being held on the stages? Once they strike those, you'll know the chances of the movie happening are finished. But until then, there's still a chance.

 

[Broccoli]

In addition to the sets still being kept up, everyone is onboard to make it and at least one draft of the script is done. MGM is the holdup, waiting for the direct-to-DVD market improve. I'd hardly call that scrapped.

 

[Smiley]

Since we have a Stargate on the air, it seems the best we can hope for is another, better show that has wormhole/space travel in it.

 

[DWF]

Well this might make you happy.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/january-1-2009-decca-77-the-mailbag/

poundpuppy29 writes: “Is there going to be more action in the second half of SGU and I don’t mean sex by the way I like the personal stuff but I would like my scifi to have some action too?”
Answer: Yep. Aliens and space battles in the first episode back, #11: Space, followed by intrigue, mystery, loss, exploration, chaos, revelations, and a big two part finale reminiscent of golden age SG-1.

 

[The Wormhole]

SGU could use some humour. Some of the funniest jokes in modern day sci-fi come from SG-1 and Atlantis, so why SGU lacks any kind of comedy at all is a mystery.

 

[Harvey]

Let's hope Mallozzi isn't completely full of himself once again, and the back half of the season actually delivers. They're throwing so much money at this series that it has no right to be as bad as it has been.

 

[Brikar99]

SGU could use some humour. Some of the funniest jokes in modern day sci-fi come from SG-1 and Atlantis, so why SGU lacks any kind of comedy at all is a mystery.

I don't think that it lacks comedy of any kind... it's just really toned down and different. The pilot had Eli throwing out some SG-style quips, but the big comedic moments have really come from brief scenes like the crew ragging on each other for smelling badly or Grier's prank with the space potato.

 

[stj]

Stargate: Universe suffers from the unfixable problem of being a solemn (serious is intended,) show that is set in the absurd Stargate universe. What could be swallowed for a movie just doesn't hold up if you don't have infinite reserves of willing suspension of disbelief.

Worse, they actually tried to dramatize a survivalist epic. The producers were apparently under the delusion that people really disliked Voyager for not being a dark and gritty survivalist epic, and that BattleStar Galactica actually was a survivalist epic. Quite aside from the fact that no one wanted a survivalist epic (and such intensity would inevitably lose focus dragged out over a full season, anyhow,) you just can't have magic tech and real jeopardy.

And it seems the show ducked the real grit when it interfered with childish notions of drama: The sexes should have been chaperoned or even segregated, to prevent pregnancy. Vitamin deficiency or the lack of toilet paper or the problem of boredom without ipods, books or television/radio as far as I know have been neglected.

The science in the Stargate universe is a joke. Taking itself seriously is a fundamental esthetic error. Stargate SG1 didn't make that mistake. It is possible to sneak in the occasional drama, taking advantage of willing suspension of disbelief. But the big, pompous "arcs" are just too much weight for such silliness to support. The pyramids are landing pads for aliens? Gah!

As for Universe, aliens from another galaxy who were the same as humans? Double gah!

 

[DWF]

And it seems the show ducked the real grit when it interfered with childish notions of drama: The sexes should have been chaperoned or even segregated, to prevent pregnancy. Vitamin deficiency or the lack of toilet paper or the problem of boredom without ipods, books or television/radio as far as I know have been neglected.

This is a somewhat silly complaint, they kind gave up books and television to live off world in the first place, sex and pregnancy aren't really things that can avoided where men and women are concerned.

 

[Kelthaz]

Yeah, I know exactly how you feel. Stargate Universe is a real disappointment to fans who liked the humourous take of SG-1 and Atlantis. Fortunately I started watching the Stargate series late, so I still have around 200 episodes of the two good shows to watch before I run out. Maybe Universe will be good by then.

 

[The Wormhole]

SGU could use some humour. Some of the funniest jokes in modern day sci-fi come from SG-1 and Atlantis, so why SGU lacks any kind of comedy at all is a mystery.

I don't think that it lacks comedy of any kind... it's just really toned down and different. The pilot had Eli throwing out some SG-style quips, but the big comedic moments have really come from brief scenes like the crew ragging on each other for smelling badly or Grier's prank with the space potato.

None of those were funny. Where are the moments like in 200 when Invisible O'Neill stuck his dog in the driver seat of his car? Or Teal'c's Jaffa joke from Seth? Childhood's End when McKay is trying to argue that forced relocation of a society is okay if it provides a ZPM? Doctors Coombs and Felger making cracks about Star Trek's technobabble in The Other Guys? Teal'c misuderstanding why a hippy would want to go to Canada in 1969? Sheppard ignoring McKay and Zelenka so that he could stare at girls in No Man's Land? Hermiod getting impatient with McKay in Intruder? Ronon scaring the shit out of the scientist in Critical Mass?