Why not leave it at, "Thanks, but even if I was interested that wouldn't be something we could pursue"? If they're a decent person then that will be the end of it, and if they're not then you can always disengage from them once they've made that less ambiguous.
I like Ezri, but...
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Why not leave it at, "Thanks, but even if I was interested that wouldn't be something we could pursue"? If they're a decent person then that will be the end of it, and if they're not then you can always disengage from them once they've made that less ambiguous.
Are you not the one imposing on him and testing his relationship?
But hearing a statement about romantic feelings phrased as a possibility just sounds like real feelings couched in plausible deniability.
Figure out if your feelings are real and appropriate to say anything about before mentioning them to the crush object, with or without weaseling about "possibility". And apply much higher standards of "worth mentioning" to people who are already in a relationship.
Figure out if your feelings are real and appropriate to say anything about before mentioning them to the crush object, with or without weaseling about "possibility". And apply much higher standards of "worth mentioning" to people who are already in a relationship.
I don't see how it's much of an imposition or a test unless one presumes there's subtext.
I concede that that may be a way that people would interpret it, but those people should also acknowledge that they're inserting their own interpretation into what's actually being said.
What other ways to interpret it are there?
Maybe we're trying to tell you to be self-aware and you probably could have, in some way of looking at it, broke the trust that person had in you, but you really can't say so ... literally. These are just suggestions.
I don't know them, but isn't that what they're doing? You implied a potential romantic interest, it made them uncomfortable.
I think if one hears someone say 'I may be into you' and one interprets that as 'I am into you but I'm adding 'may' as a disclaimer' then one isn't interpreting it literally, but rather injecting subtext that may or may not be real.
But I'm also aware that this is well out of the scope of this thread and I don't want to be the primary driver of a meandering conversation.
But I'm also aware that this is well out of the scope of this thread and I don't want to be the primary driver of a meandering conversation.
A MUCH better Dax, as far as I'm concerned. Both the character and the actress were just too good to have her in only one season. In my perfect world she would have shown up in Season 4.
Would Ezri, in your world, have been in love with Worf?
I'd call Bashir-Ezri the most annoying. Lacked sincerity in the acting and felt obviously tacked on to give him Someone to Love at the end.
I thought Jadzia-Worf was pretty good.
If there were no real-world considerations I would have liked to have seen a male Dax in S7, as I feel that would have made the character dynamics a bit more interesting and potentially progressive.
I wasn't prepared for Dax to change hosts between S6 and S7, but in retrospect I wish they'd done it earlier in the series (and perhaps they might have if DS9 had been made ten years later). They literally created a species where the actor could change unexpectedly but the character could live on in some form, and then, until Ezri at least, only used that conceit to look backward.
I don't think it's reasonable to compare six seasons of Jadzia to one season of Ezri. I like them both for different reasons, but, as I've said before, I think Ezri proved her worth when she finally told Worf what he needed to hear about the Klingon Empire...something that, again, I don't believe Jadzia ever would have said to him.
TL;DR
Ezri: Neat wrinkle in the series.
Better than Dax?: We don't have enough data to make a valid comparison.
Making the best of a bad situation?: The situation with Farrell was unfortunate, but in-universe this was finally tapping some story potential that had been there from the beginning and never utilized.
A mistake?: Perhaps more of an opportunity, given that it couldn't have occurred with any of the other characters.
I personally saw Ezri as a "lose-lose-lose", nothing against Nicole DeBoer.
* By having Dax just come back, and do the same stuff Jadzia did, it cheapened Jadzia's death. And only the second time on Trek a major character died, too.
* They had only one season to spend on her, do there wasn't enough time to devote to the obvious issues suffered by a poorly conceived Joining. Normally, symbiont and host are carefully matched, and the host has years of training. Ezri was just, "hi, we're putting this slug in you, hope you don't go nuts as a result".
* The idea of having a station counselor who was more neurotic than her patients (and didn't counsel anyone except Garak) didn't work.
* Ezri/Bashir felt like "Julian just got dumped for a
-ing Ferengi, so we have to give him something." When I saw their first kiss, I truly did not care at all.
* By having Dax just come back, and do the same stuff Jadzia did, it cheapened Jadzia's death. And only the second time on Trek a major character died, too.
* They had only one season to spend on her, do there wasn't enough time to devote to the obvious issues suffered by a poorly conceived Joining. Normally, symbiont and host are carefully matched, and the host has years of training. Ezri was just, "hi, we're putting this slug in you, hope you don't go nuts as a result".
* The idea of having a station counselor who was more neurotic than her patients (and didn't counsel anyone except Garak) didn't work.
* Ezri/Bashir felt like "Julian just got dumped for a
-ing Ferengi, so we have to give him something." When I saw their first kiss, I truly did not care at all.Ezri wasn't exactly like Jadzia. Jadzia didn't do counseling, was a Klingonophile, martial artist, and scientist. Jadzia would have been way too much a Klingonophile to give Worf the Klingon Empire speech that he needed to hear. Yes, Ezri could be a bridge officer on the Defiant, but that's partly Starfleet training she got before joining, and partly Jadzia's memories. It would have been weird if Ezri was unable to work on the bridge.
We learned in "Equilibrium" and "Invasive Procedures" that, while the training hosts get does make it easier for them, the need for an exact match between host and symbiont is overstated by the entire Trill establishment.
I enjoyed Ezri's neurotic tendencies. Counselors are not automatically mentally healthy, much like being an MD doesn't mean you'll never catch the flu. Some of them are as mixed up as their patients.
Completely agree about the Ezri-Bashir relationship. If the series had gone on another 4-5 episodes, they should have done an episode in which they broke up, trip to Raisa optional.
We learned in "Equilibrium" and "Invasive Procedures" that, while the training hosts get does make it easier for them, the need for an exact match between host and symbiont is overstated by the entire Trill establishment.
I enjoyed Ezri's neurotic tendencies. Counselors are not automatically mentally healthy, much like being an MD doesn't mean you'll never catch the flu. Some of them are as mixed up as their patients.
Completely agree about the Ezri-Bashir relationship. If the series had gone on another 4-5 episodes, they should have done an episode in which they broke up, trip to Raisa optional.
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