Just not sure there was any real reason to end it with a TNG episode. Rather they had stuck to something they were planning anyway.
What's done is done, can't change it.
How would you fix the series finale?
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What's done is done, can't change it.
Some sources say the TNG-crossover was the planned "season" finale and it just got reworked into a series finale. The main changes were likely Trip's death and the 6-years-later part. I buy this, because it doesn't feel 6 years later, and they can't decide if it's the Coalition of Planets or United Federation of Planets.
Perhaps, but Coto talked about a Romulan War setup in a potential S5, among other things. My fix would simply not to have the TNG crossover as the finale, and do something else with the ideas they had.
Yes, you are correct. The Romulan War was meant to be foreshadowed in S4's Romulan trilogy and would have been explored more in S5, but not the S4 finale.
Honestly, if the TNG-crossover finale is being ditched all together, it's likely based to do one of two things. Either make the Terra Prime thing a trilogy, or just do the finale as a flashforward, but without the TNG stuff.
To let Trip die was totally unnecessary.
Well, they didn't "let" him die, it was intentional to make the finale emotional. Unfortunately, that backfired.
I think one of my ideas from the pitch game would have worked
Even has a call back to the pilot
Even has a call back to the pilot
Or even this swing for the fences
“Left Field” - The teaser opens with the Enterprise in battle with a Romulan Bird of Prey. The ships exchange weapons fire. The camera zooms in, but not on the Enterprise but on the RSE Praetor’s Talon. We desolve into the Romulan bridge. In the center seats are Commander S'Zar (John Billingsly) and at his side is political officer Sub-Commander Rael (Scott Bakula). S'Zar scowls as the Earth ship evades the Romulan disruptor beams. At helm the pilot, Lt. Valdor (Connor Trinner) feels the heat of his commander's stare. he turn and mention the skill of the human pilot, This earns him a rebuke from Rael. S'zar then turns to weapons officer Sh' ar (Linda Park) a Romulan-Reman hybrid asking for a weapons lock. She affirms the lock and fires, The disruptors hit the Earth ship which shakes and begins to vent plasma.
We cut to the opening which feature the Praetor's Talon and credits in Romulan script.
When we return we are in the Romulan conference room. In addition S'Zar and Rael, seated at the table are Lorn (Jolene Blalock) the Chief Engineer, T'Mak (Dominic Keating) the medical officer and Phaedor (Anthony Montgomery) the science officer. They discuss the Earth ship. Lorn reports on its current state. Phaedor comments on its primitive nature. Dr. T'Mak gives a status report ion the crew. Rael finds Valdor's admiration of the humans worrisome. He's also suspicious of Sh' ar, he finds hybrids distasteful and Remans to be beasts. S'Zar cautions Rael, he knows Sh' ar's Romulan family has the ear of the Praetor, Rael smirks, he feels the Tal Shiar is beyond the reproach of the Praetor. The Praetor serves at the behest of the Tal Shiar. This shocks the others.
From the bridge, Valdor informs the commander that the Earth ship has slipped into a nebula and sensors have lost them. Rael uses this to question Valdor's competence and loyalty.
As the search for the Earth ship intensifies so do the divisions in the crew. Lorn has her hands full on the lower decks as the Reman laborers, who are raised to see the Praetor as semi-divine, are getting rebellious. Lashing out at those they suspect of Tal Shiar ties. Rael and his operatives continue to harass Valdor, Sh' ar and others. S'Zar is caught in the middle and tries to concentrate with Phaedor orn finding the Earth ship. In the Sick Bay Dr. T'Mak has trouble keeping the two sides from fighting while treating their injuries from previous run ins.
Things come to a head when Rael tries to arrest Sh' ar and the Remans sabotage the singularity drive. As the Enterprise leaves the nebula they watch as the Praetor's Talon implodes.
Next Episode- "Cry Havoc"Years ago I had a crazy idea vfor an episode where all the actors played Romulan characters
To me there was 2 ways to "fix" it. 1) Either don't make it, or 2) Exactly what Andy Mangles & Michael A Martin did it in "The Good That Men Do".
The Good That Men Do: is this a movie?
If I had to commit to essentially the same concept, I wouldn't put the frame on the Enterprise D. It would be Captain Riker and his wife on the Titan revisiting these events on the holodeck for one reason or another.
And, again, if I had to commit to basically the same setup, I would make Trip's death infinitely less lame. If I were allowed to totally eliminate one aspect of the story, Trip's death would be that thing.
And, again, if I had to commit to basically the same setup, I would make Trip's death infinitely less lame. If I were allowed to totally eliminate one aspect of the story, Trip's death would be that thing.
Yes, it's a book, like mentioned above, and I won't spoil it, it's worth a read, and it was literally the first Star Trek novel I ever read, guess I was late to the Trek Novels.
I actually didn't mind Trip's death myself, and he is my favorite character. It's the last episode. It wasn't that he died, it's that he died because space pirates because MACO was on coffee break.
Union rules.
No.
Archer pulled out a book on the Romulan Star Empire, that Daniels quickly put back.
Then he was shown the founding of the Federation. But he did not know that a war with the Romulans proceeded it.
Even in his visit to the Ent-J, Archer’s told about Klingons and Xindi serving onboard, but not Romulans. And PIC has definitely set up Romulans are going to be serving in Starfleet by that point.
Archer was in the dark about Romulans and the Romulan War, otherwise he would have told others during the Romulan drone crisis.
And TATV wants everyone to believe that after 4 years of war, Archer’s still thinking about the Xindi. Even though Shran supposedly died right in the middle of the Romulan War. And was just as important in addressing the drone crisis.
As for Future Guy, he never reappears after giving Archer information about the Xindi attack. It’s Daniels, Silik, and Vosk that Archer interacts with. None of them are Future Guy, afaik.
well we now know who he was right? or is that just conjecture?
There has never been any canon reference to who FutureGuy really was. Braga mentioned years after the fact that he was Archer, but he was basically talking out of his ass, because that doesn't make any sense. Berman and Braga definitely did not know who he was when they were actually producing the show, because the whole Temporal Cold War plot was foisted on them by UPN, and they cared little about it.
I have heard that the finale of Discovery revealed it?
The identity of Future Guy remains unrevealed.
Well, the only thing I'd change about the ENT-Finale, would be either not killing Trip or actually not doing a finale, but a season 4 cliffhanger, leading to a season 5, which would contain everything, we could read in the great Star Trek: Enterprise-Books, that dealt with season 5 and 6.
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