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How will season 2 end?

How will season 2 end?

  • USS Enterprise saves the day

    Votes: 15 13.8%
  • USS Discovery is send to another time

    Votes: 43 39.4%
  • Burnham is erased from time/dies

    Votes: 9 8.3%
  • Dr. Pulaski crawls out of the turbolift shaft and yells at Picard

    Votes: 19 17.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 23 21.1%

  • Total voters
    109
Then Sybok got married? Or did he die in ST5? Don’t remember as I have done my best to forget that movie.

Or maybe it's Perrin and Sarek's kid (who knows how many they might have had by then). Doesn't Vulcan libido increase with age after all? They could have easily been married for decades before Sarek died and had several kids.
 
If they hit the reset button, I think the interesting question will be "why"? Would they really be doing something like this to placate a few angry internet blowhards, or have they seen some erosion in subscribers/subscribers watching the show? Or is it just a creative decision that some things just don't work and they need to be changed moving forward?

Hoping it is the latter.

When would they have had time to see an erosion or react to the blowhards? Any decisions would have been made months before the season even started.
 
When would they have had time to see an erosion or react to the blowhards? Any decisions would have been made months before the season even started.

Not to mention the fact that CBS specifically stated publically that as of the start of this season subscription number growth was 2 years ahead of projections.
 
She is noticeably absent from Sarek's breakdown in "Sarek", she is also noticeably absent from "Yesteryear". Which can't be Spock hiding his family as it is a snapshot of his home life at age seven.

Re: Sarek's breakdown

We got snapshots of Sarek's breakdown not the entire thing. After all, how long did the negotiations with the Llgonians (sp) take. It could've gone on hours, and he likely said a lot of things we didn't hear. Maybe he even mentioned Sybok.

Re: Yesteryear

Michael could've been away, studying at the Vulcan Science Academy during those events.
 
Post-Spock's wedding, we saw Spock for an episode ("Unification II") and Sarek for two ("Sarek", "Unification I"). Not much time to go into the family details.
Exactly. Not much time to go in family details, including Michael.
 
I don't think it is a very solid foundation for a character when you have to keep coming up with reasons why she wasn't in certain scenes or ever mentioned at all. A foster sister that has been living with the character since she was five is kinda hard to keep under raps. It is the same issue I have with Sybok (Luckinbill was another good actor given an underbaked role as a Spock sibling).

And one thing that needs debunked: Spock may have been private, but he wasn't that private. He mentions having a human ancestor in "Where No Man...", then openly mentions his mother and father to the entire bridge crew in "The Corbomite Maneuver".

The Corbomite Maneuver said:
SPOCK: However, it was well played. I regret not having learned more about this Balok. In some manner he was reminiscent of my father.
SCOTT: Then may heaven have helped your mother.
SPOCK: Quite the contrary. She considered herself a very fortunate Earth woman.
 
I don't think it is a very solid foundation for a character when you have to keep coming up with reasons why she wasn't in certain scenes or ever mentioned at all. A foster sister that has been living with the character since she was five is kinda hard to keep under raps. It is the same issue I have with Sybok (Luckinbill was another good actor given an underbaked role as a Spock sibling).
I agree, but it's all in about the characters and their growth. I personally enjoy Michael and curious to see more of her. and her interactions. When the story is done then I'll render whether or not I think her character is an issue for Spock as he stands in other Trek productions.
 
I don't think it is a very solid foundation for a character when you have to keep coming up with reasons why she wasn't in certain scenes or ever mentioned at all. A foster sister that has been living with the character since she was five is kinda hard to keep under raps. It is the same issue I have with Sybok (Luckinbill was another good actor given an underbaked role as a Spock sibling).

And one thing that needs debunked: Spock may have been private, but he wasn't that private. He mentions having a human ancestor in "Where No Man...", then openly mentions his mother and father to the entire bridge crew in "The Corbomite Maneuver".

Not sure why yo think its strange that kids aren't joined at the hip 24/7 365 days a year. Lots of characters on Star Trek don't appear in episodes for no reason other than they aren't there (seems to have become a major complaint for Disco, though when a minor character comes and goes, IE "Where is Jet Reno??!!"). Lots or reasons why a foster sister might not be around for a given period of time. As a 3rd born in my family i recognize this happens a lot. kind of given Yesteryear even more poignancy, IMHO.

And sure Spock says he has a human ancestor and parents at odd points, usually when provoked for a particular reason. He doesn't go on about who they are, however, now does he?.
 
I'm not saying that Spock's death will be the cliffhanger. I'm saying that if their plan is to basically reboot the show at the end of the season via time travel - to have Burnham go back in time to when she viewed the supernova as a child and use the "power of a supernova" to make the timeline right (something which was directly hinted at last episode) then killing Spock the episode before would make thematic sense. It would help to cut her off emotionally from her timeline, making her more apt to reset things. It would also trigger an amazing "WTF" freakout in fandom, which would raise the visibility of the show. People would be wondering if they were pressing the reset button or just making Discovery a whole new timeline, and tune in next week to find out.

Basically kill Spock at the end of episode 14, and then have the last episode deal with "fixing" the timeline and Discovery's likely jump into the future.
They already killed Spock in a major fashion once, I'm not sure that's something that would be considered edgy or new enough at this point to be used again.
 
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She is noticeably absent from Sarek's breakdown in "Sarek",

So was Sybok, and he and Spock were "raised as brothers" as Spock said in ST:V.

she is also noticeably absent from "Yesteryear". Which can't be Spock hiding his family as it is a snapshot of his home life at age seven.

That was before Michael came to live with them. Besides, that's the animated series. Ooooo. I went there.
 
And one thing that needs debunked: Spock may have been private, but he wasn't that private.

McCOY: Let me get this straight. You and Sybok have the same father but different mothers.
SPOCK: Exactly. That is correct. Sybok's mother was a Vulcan princess. After her death, Sybok and I were raised as brothers.
KIRK: Why didn't you tell us this before?
SPOCK: I was not prepared to discuss matters of a personal nature. For that I am sorry.
 
I can see how a minor re-set might be necessary. At present, they have a number of characters who really were designed to fit the narrative and arc of the first season, but really don't fit in anymore.

Stamets was the "spore drive guy," but the spore drive has taken a back seat and Stamets has been virtually useless this season. In fact, Culber has had a far better arc than Stamets.
Tyler had a very specific role/arc in S1, and was virtually unrecoverable for S2...but they kind of shoehorned him in anyway
L'Rell is the same story...good character...but seems unnaturally forced into the overall narrative.
Even Tilley seems to not really fit the go-forward creative plans
We know Pike and Spock are probably done at the end of this season as well...

It's too bad, because I love all the characters and the actors that play them, but it really seems as though they were specifically designed for Season 1. There has been little-to-nothing for them in S2. Heck, Amanda has had more to do in S2 than Stamets.

I could see them carrying on with Burnham, Tilly, Saru and Captain Annual...with some smaller stuff for Detmer, Owo, Linus, etc mixed in like TOS used to do with Sulu, Chekov, etc.

I just hope it's not "Star Trek Voyager" redux with the ship being flung into the 74th century and no way home or whatever.
Those characters may have been underused this season but that hardly means they're now useless. Other than Stamets I don't see how any of them are tied to season 1's story. Tilly is a character in her own right with almost no dependence on the circumstances of S1. Tyler and L'Rell were given an origin story, not a complete arc, and they remain interesting characters with a lot to explore. Culber is suddenly more interesting too. But Stamets, sure. I was only half-joking about my idea to transplant him into the Picard series.
 
I don't think it is a very solid foundation for a character when you have to keep coming up with reasons why she wasn't in certain scenes or ever mentioned at all. A foster sister that has been living with the character since she was five is kinda hard to keep under raps. It is the same issue I have with Sybok (Luckinbill was another good actor given an underbaked role as a Spock sibling).

And one thing that needs debunked: Spock may have been private, but he wasn't that private. He mentions having a human ancestor in "Where No Man...", then openly mentions his mother and father to the entire bridge crew in "The Corbomite Maneuver".

I don't mention that I have a brother to people unless it naturally comes up. I'm sure most of the people I work with don't know I have a sibling. I don't see how Michael not being mentioned in TOS is weird.
 
Those characters may have been underused this season but that hardly means they're now useless. Other than Stamets I don't see how any of them are tied to season 1's story. Tilly is a character in her own right with almost no dependence on the circumstances of S1. Tyler and L'Rell were given an origin story, not a complete arc, and they remain interesting characters with a lot to explore. Culber is suddenly more interesting too. But Stamets, sure. I was only half-joking about my idea to transplant him into the Picard series.

I hope you're right. I love those characters and actors. I am counting on them finding a good way to continue to integrate them into the continuing story!
 
She is noticeably absent from Sarek's breakdown in "Sarek", she is also noticeably absent from "Yesteryear". Which can't be Spock hiding his family as it is a snapshot of his home life at age seven.
So is Sybok....
We can at least make a case to claim Nella Darren...
She might be Jamaican, after all British sounding Picard is French and American accented La Forge is Somalian
Betazoids are the ones whose libidos increase with age. That's why Luaxana Troi's lusting over every man in "Manhunt".
According to Tuvok so do Vulcans
Michael could've been away, studying at the Vulcan Science Academy during those events.
She was at the Vulcan hairdressers, getting her roots permed
And one thing that needs debunked: Spock may have been private, but he wasn't that private. He mentions having a human ancestor in "Where No Man...", then openly mentions his mother and father to the entire bridge crew in "The Corbomite Maneuver".
And yet never mentions that his father is the ambassador to Vulcan, until the plot requires it
 
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I don't think we will get an actual reset, and I certainly hope we don't - If only for "Lethe". Sarek's choice is by far my favourite moment of Disco, and in itself provides a good insight into the reasons for the rift between Sarek and Spock that we already know of.

I really wouldn't like to see that undone.
 
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