How will season 2 end?

[zar]

And too be honest I don't like prequels as a concept. I think its just creatively bankrupt to do prequels like this, especially when you have to dodge canonasteroids. Its why I am actually looking forward to the Picard series because it will be a proper sequel. Star Trek should always be moving forward in my opinion.

I don't agree, but I can appreciate you saying that you don't like prequels as a concept. Too many people try to argue that Star Trek is somehow special and shouldn't have prequels, because reasons, or that this prequel is bad because x or y is "unnecessary". Of course, unless the original story was so bad that it didn't make sense to begin with, all prequels are unnecessary, but their point is to enrich the originals, not to complete or "fix" them. You think prequels don't work as a concept. That's fine. I happen to think this one successfully enriches the original material, as do many others.

I would also say that there are obstacles to expanding on a story whether you choose a prequel or a sequel. For example, practically any sequel involving Cardassians now must address the fact that their homeworld was recently devastated. Half the regular characters that we already know must now be retired or doing something completely different that makes it harder to include them in stories. So in many cases a prequel gives more freedom. There are also a hundred "writing prompts" scattered throughout the franchise in the form of characters vaguely referencing past events that were never seen.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

But imagine the bitching and moaning for years to come. TATV was bad, very bad. I'm still not over it 14 years later. Imagine if they actually did it, snapped a whole tv show out of existence..

You bet I'd complain. I'm a bubbly, happy fangirl, but that doesn't mean some things don't piss me off. TATV and the Space Nazis do not exist as far as I'm concerned. The rest of ENT does.

 

[Alan Roi]

Worked well for Year of Hell. Now just take that and apply it to a whole series

 

[pst]

I agree. I've never liked prequels. Occasionally, they're good (Rogue One) but a whole series set in the past of Star Trek has never been something I've wanted to see. Enterprise is an okay show but most of what was done could've been done on one of the other spin offs. With Discovery, it looks so different that most of what's been done should have been done on the other spin offs or something set after them.

personally, i don't mind that discovery is a prequel. the way they're approaching it, it's a lot like the kelvin films and it's just kind of baseline star trek. i also find the term "prequel" not particularly accurate. the universe and history of star trek is so vast, you can tell almost any story at any point and i don't think it needs to be considered a prequel or a sequel or a side-quel or anything else, just another addition to the universe.

the problem for me is in stuff like the kurtzman talking point from the paley fest this weekend, basically "you know how pike got into his wheelchair, but do you really know???" i get the impulse to tell stories in this universe and play with established characters, i just don't get the rationale behind telling a story that requires mental gymnastics to get it to align with another. just tell the story you want to tell and forget the prime universe gimmick. tell us a new version of how pike got into his wheelchair, don't tell us this is the true story and we were lied to the first time.

 

[eschaton]

I mean, really, when it comes down to it, series are about the characters, not the lore or the wider world. As long as the actions of the first two seasons continue to have ramifications upon the main cast, it's not a total loss. And we already know - since they've said Culber's arc continues into the third season - that the worst case scenario isn't going to happen. We're not going to have the TL not only reset, but all of the mains having amnesia about what happened prior to this point in the show, yet inexplicably all thrust together anyway.

 

[BillJ]

If the show goes into the far future, I hope it is given a chance to stand on its own. I don't want to go to the far future just to visit the Romulans or Klingons.

 

[Lord Garth]

This is how Season 2 will end: Leland is hanging out on his ship. Two Klingon ships are nearby. He's waiting for Georgiou to show up. Tyler is already there. He puts on the song "Don't Stop Believing". It's one of Michael's favorite songs, he says. Leland hears the doors open. He looks up. Then it all goes to black.

 

[SJGardner]

If the show goes into the far future, I hope it is given a chance to stand on its own. I don't want to go to the far future just to visit the Romulans or Klingons.

There are so much more they could be done in a far future setting than just Romulans and Klingons... I agree, it would be a total waste. For example, revisiting Kaminar 1000 years later might be a huge treasure trove for Saru-centric character material if we could be shown the effects his actions had on his people on an historical scale. No matter if future Kaminar is an uninhabited wasteland or if the events of The Sound of Thunder transcended into myth, with Saru possibly being revered as their savior, there's a whole lot of story potential there either way.

 

[XCV330]

There are so much more they could be done in a far future setting than just Romulans and Klingons... I agree, it would be a total waste. For example, revisiting Kaminar 1000 years later might be a huge treasure trove for Saru-centric character material if we could be shown the effects his actions had on his people on an historical scale. No matter if future Kaminar is an uninhabited wasteland or if the events of The Sound of Thunder transcended into myth, with Saru possibly being revered as their savior, there's a whole lot of story potential there either way.

The Kelvans should be coming in from Andromeda too.

 

[SJGardner]

The Kelvans should be coming in from Andromeda too.

Now Remmick's deep-space message at the end of Conspiracy has crossed my mind and I don't want to think about that.

 

[SG-17]

I don't agree, but I can appreciate you saying that you don't like prequels as a concept. Too many people try to argue that Star Trek is somehow special and shouldn't have prequels, because reasons, or that this prequel is bad because x or y is "unnecessary". Of course, unless the original story was so bad that it didn't make sense to begin with, all prequels are unnecessary, but their point is to enrich the originals, not to complete or "fix" them. You think prequels don't work as a concept. That's fine. I happen to think this one successfully enriches the original material, as do many others.

I would also say that there are obstacles to expanding on a story whether you choose a prequel or a sequel. For example, practically any sequel involving Cardassians now must address the fact that their homeworld was recently devastated. Half the regular characters that we already know must now be retired or doing something completely different that makes it harder to include them in stories. So in many cases a prequel gives more freedom. There are also a hundred "writing prompts" scattered throughout the franchise in the form of characters vaguely referencing past events that were never seen.

I would want the next full exploration based Star Trek series to take another big time jump. Set it in the late 25th or early 26th centuries. Avoid all the issues of picking up within the lifetime of existing characters. Look forward 100 years+ after the Dominion War and the destruction of Romulus to a new world with new stories and new characters.



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I could see season 3 being the Discovery and crew in the 33rd century trying to find a way to return home and save the Federation from becoming the V'draysh.

 

[XCV330]

Now Remmick's deep-space message at the end of Conspiracy has crossed my mind and I don't want to think about that.

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it goes WAY better with a good beat

 

[CorporalClegg]

 

[Noname Given]

The more interviews with producers I see the more it seems that some kind of reset, unfortunately, happens.

The latest is the following trekmovie interview. The first question is if Picard goes to his computer to look up history will he see all the events shown on Discovery and Kurtzman refuses to answer until the season is over.

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I honestly hope he's just being coy and just not wanting to really hint one way or the other, because with all my issues with ST: D - I would honestly hate a big "Temporal-based reset" here; but I guess we'll know in a month or so when everything WRT ST: D Season 2 has aired.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

In fire.

 

[TPezz]

Didn’t they also say that Season 3 will continue to link up with TOS cannon? Or am I totally imagining reading that If so, I kinda don’t see how taking Discovery to far in the future continues to link up with cannon And if they do go to the future, surely the past timeline will have to change for it to work, Discovery can’t just disappear into the future. Someone would notice she’s missing

 

[Lord Garth]

Didn’t they also say that Season 3 will continue to link up with TOS cannon? Or am I totally imagining reading that If so, I kinda don’t see how taking Discovery to far in the future continues to link up with cannon And if they do go to the future, surely the past timeline will have to change for it to work, Discovery can’t just disappear into the future. Someone would notice she’s missing

I'm assuming they "link up" with TOS before the end of the season. Meaning tying up the loose ends. Then whatever they do next season is something else.

 

[SJGardner]

I recall an eventually aborted series pitch being floated at some point in the 2000s that was to take place in a future where the Alpha Quadrant was riddled with huge, impassable bubbles of subspace ruptures due to large amounts of Omega molecules being detonated in a war, and I just realized that Discovery with its spore drive could possibly be ideal in a setting like this. I could totally imagine a future where somebody would be desperate enough to effectively sterilize subspace as a last measure containment effort against a rampaging Control.

 

[Norsehound]

I agree. I've never liked prequels. Occasionally, they're good (Rogue One) but a whole series set in the past of Star Trek has never been something I've wanted to see. Enterprise is an okay show but most of what was done could've been done on one of the other spin offs. With Discovery, it looks so different that most of what's been done should have been done on the other spin offs or something set after them.

That said, the interim between Star Trek 6 and TNG would have made a better setting for a prequel whilst still being a sequel to TOS. Why it was decided to go back 10 years before the very iconic and very 1960s TOS to do a dark and gritty very 2010s prequel is beyond me. That's just asking for trouble.

We'd still have the same problems we do now, except in relation to TNG things. Romulans show up? "Well, it says in The Neutral Zone that the Romulans haven't had contact with the Federation in x years!". Klingon politics is already informed up into that point by TNG/Ds9, so there's only so much you can do with them. Holodecks were supposed to be new and fun by TNG, so that can't happen.... and so on.

Had Discovery been a one-off miniseries, as a true prequel it could have worked. But being a standalone show I'd rather see them depart from canon so they aren't slaves to it. That way anything interesting, like Pike, have a future to explore.

 

[DaveyNY]

Official Contact between governments and the Romulans sneaking around in the back ally's of space interfering in ways mostly unknown, are two different things.
(something they've been doing since before the Earth/Romulan war)
Holodeck's aren't new by the time of TNG, they just work in oh so many different and better ways.
(and are still fun)
Klingon Politic's change with whatever way the solar wind happens to be blowing at the time, so nothing new there either.