How 'Tuvix' should have ended

[Oddish]

There would have to be some limitations on actions of this nature; otherwise all away team deaths would be eminently reversible.

Marla Aster dies in "The Bonding"? Just generate a new Marla from the bio matter of her corpse, using the stored pattern. She only loses the memory of the mission, and Jeremy never knows he was technically an orphan for 47 seconds. Armus randomly murders Tasha Yar? Use her pattern to undo it. In "Legacy", either Tasha knows her sister well enough to detect her deception, or Ishara is so happy to see her sister that she joins them for real. And if you don't need specific biomatter, you could even generate a replacement Sito Jaxa. Sorry, Ensign Lavelle, that promotion isn't a lock after all.

 

[Akiraprise]

The transporter has always been a huge MacGuffin. It's done so many crazy things over the years that it probably never should have.

 

[Oddish]

It's the Macguffin to end all Macguffins. Immortality machine, fountain of youth, splitter, combiner, time machine, and medical marvel... oh, yeah, and you can go places with it, too.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's the Macguffin to end all Macguffins. Immortality machine, fountain of youth, splitter, combiner, time machine, and medical marvel... oh, yeah, and you can go places with it, too.

If this stuff was "usable" then the Dominion would not have been wasting their time with clones.

 

[fireproof78]

Sorry, Ensign Lavelle, that promotion isn't a lock after all.

No one liked him anyway.

 

[Oddish]

No one liked him anyway.

I liked how Riker realized that maybe he was a little hard on him... then Geordi realized the same about Taurik.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I liked how Riker realized that maybe he was a little hard on him... then Geordi realized the same about Taurik.

Imagine some goon called you a Canadian, not that there's anything wrong with that, and try not to get snotty.

 

[Ragitsu]

Transporter: MacGuffin.
Replicator: McMuffin.

 

[at Quark's]

We don't even know if they had Tuvix's memories.

It seems Tuvix had memories of both Neelix and Tuvok. So I'd say that Neelix and Tuvok might be having those Tuvix memories too, after they were separated again. But I agree that we don't know for sure.

 

[Oddish]

It seems Tuvix had memories of both Neelix and Tuvok. So I'd say that Neelix and Tuvok might be having those Tuvix memories too, after they were separated again. But I agree that we don't know for sure.

Because they ended the episode following Janeway down the corridor, showing that she had been hit hard by her actions. And then, the Reset Button.

 

[Akiraprise]

How Tuvix should have ended?

 

[Ragitsu]

That's an innocent plant!

...send the stores of leola root, instead.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It seems Tuvix had memories of both Neelix and Tuvok. So I'd say that Neelix and Tuvok might be having those Tuvix memories too, after they were separated again. But I agree that we don't know for sure.

Maybe Neelix broke up with Kes, because she shut down Tuvix's intamacy?

Yes, I am suggesting turning down Tuvix's pass, is more humiliating than murdering Tuvix.

So Kes, sweeting, what you should should have done is murdered Tuvix and then told his twitching corpse that you were never going to sleep with him, giving the poor bastard a modicum of dignity.

Tuvok and Neelix were not married, so Tuvix is a bastard.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Because they ended the episode following Janeway down the corridor, showing that she had been hit hard by her actions. And then, the Reset Button.

It's still not the real Neelix and Tuvok.

Two of her old friends are still dead, and she had to kill a new friend, for no logical reason.

 

[Oddish]

It's still not the real Neelix and Tuvok.

Of course, it can be argued that the first time anyone is beamed, the actual person ceases to exist and what materializes at the destination is a copy...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Of course, it can be argued that the first time anyone is beamed, the actual person ceases to exist and what materializes at the destination is a copy...

Tuvix has been eating and pooping for a month, and they are using a month old pattern on mostly new and different biomatter.

 

[Oddish]

Tuvix has been eating and pooping for a month, and they are using a month old pattern on mostly new and different biomatter.

True, but the real problem is that the two were presumably fused on a genetic level, like a cake being baked. The procedure the EMH discussed (marking specific DNA and separating it) was reminiscent of physically filtering out the flour, but that wouldn't work. You don't have flour and milk and eggs anymore, you have cake.

 

[Guy Gardener]

True, but the real problem is that the two were presumably fused on a genetic level, like a cake being baked. The procedure the EMH discussed (marking specific DNA and separating it) was reminiscent of physically filtering out the flour, but that wouldn't work. You don't have flour and milk and eggs anymore, you have cake.

That's what the Heisenberg compensators are for.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I understand that "Tuvix" is probably not just one of the most debated "Voyager" episodes, but possibly the same position in the wholeness of "Star Trek". It literally comes down to the question, "Whose life is considered sacred, when, and why?" The scene where Tuvix loses all composure and basically accuses Janeway of genocide was done with a ton of emotion, and I think that's one reason it still resonates with a lot of people. These kinds of questions are never easy to answer, but maintaining the debate is still very important.

 

[Fantasy Lover]

You know, if they made Tuvix evil and go mind invading everyone nobody would have complained about killing Tuvix